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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #54 on: Monday 07 November 11 07:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi There
Seems Richard and Mary Taylor were from the Gouburn area....so a long way from Narrabri.
Then again, their daughter Sarah seems to have made her way to to Coonabarabran...and one of Esther's son's had the middle name Richard.  They married in 1857- we think Esther was born around 1859. No likely birth to the couple in 1859-ish- they had a son in 1858, and Sarah in 1860.

Only marriage I can find for a George McEwan is one in 1896 to Celina Sly. And an Esther Maclean marrying George McEwan in 1892- but this is before George Creighton died so shouldnt be my Esther..nothing else.

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #55 on: Monday 07 November 11 07:46 GMT (UK) »
Hiyas,
With the Esther b1859 to Thomas and Maria in Goulburn area,,,,there is a marriage for an Esther TAYLOR in 1907 to a William HENWOOD nearby,,,then a death in 1937 for Esther HENWOOD parents Thomas and Maria..

Could Esther have possibley come out of gaol, found her children gone,,then moved back 'home' (Goulburn area) to marry late in life????

I see no children to William and Esther to 1910 (doesn't mean much)

Goulburn Diocese was quite large back in 1859 and may have come close to the Coona areas.

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #56 on: Monday 07 November 11 08:15 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if the Esther Taylor who married in 1907 to William Henwood (NSW BDM ref #5831) had been previously married and if Taylor was her nee name?

Reason:  I can see a marriage 1879 COPP = TAYLOR, NSW BDM #2560

NSW SRO online index gives a divorce file of 1906 for Esther Copp (petitioner) v Alfred John Copp (respondent) no co-respondent named.  # 5660

And an online submitted tree gives that Esther (Taylor/Copp/Henwood) as born 1859 to Thomas Taylor and Maria Ann Mathews ( ;D  ;D Umm, now what was the surname of the midwife?  it was Mathews !)   Also, that same submitted tree has Esther's d o d as 18 June 1937 at Mayfield NSW.  (Although I cannot find any sources noted on the submitted tree, NSW BDM gives 1937 Esther Henwood d.c. as #8042)

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #57 on: Monday 07 November 11 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Ah Well,,
Was just a thought...
Seen her mentioned earlier in the thread....and all the other stuff mentioning Goulburn...

Kylie,,,,have you checked NLA to see if any of the indexes you need are there?
I'll be going tomorrow...

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #58 on: Monday 07 November 11 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Goulburn Diocese was quite large back in 1859 and may have come close to the Coona areas.

I didn't know that.   I had understood that the Goulburn diocese dates from around 1863 and that on its formation it extended to the south and the west, but not to the north.

Bored, as you are going to the NLA, may I ask please if perhaps you could check their records re the boundaries?   Their holdings include the 1886 maps that are on the RChat Resources Board at this link
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,538663.0.html

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #59 on: Monday 07 November 11 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi JM,
No need..
I actually have been transcribing the Canberra/Goulburn Diocese Records for quite some time...
It may have not gone far north but when you put into play how far other Diocese came South??
Goulburn Diocese was one of the earliest here in the Monaro area...
Records dating back to 1840's...

How far did the Coona records go south?
Wasn't uncommon for people to be born one area and baptised in another.

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 10 November 11 01:22 GMT (UK) »
COme on parish registers- please turn up!!!!!!! 

Have you heard anything further re those registers please

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 10 November 11 07:13 GMT (UK) »
HI there
I am very sorry to say I think we are at a dead end- just heard back from Diocean office, and they do not hold records for the parishes. They advised to contact the parish directly- and if they could not find them, then possibly they have been damaged and lost over time. They also had no explanation for the apparent Coonabarabran/Coonamble crossover. :-\
Coonamble still having no luck finding the records. :-\
No response as yet from Coonabarabran parish- or family history group (but I think they meet later in the month, so perhaps will hear then).

So final option I am also still waiting on with high hopes is the Dependant children's registers.....

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Re: Esther CREIGHTON of Coonamble-criminal in 1880's & then what?
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 10 November 11 07:48 GMT (UK) »
Not a dead-end Y E T  ;) but the hurdles are oversized and very non standard ;)
 
The Diocese of Bathurst was established in around 1870 and geographically covers about a 1/3 of NSW to the north-west of Bathurst.  There's 34 parishes in that particular Diocese, one of them should have the registers.

Another thought ... consider emailing the Diocese again please, and ask for information as to the Rev with the view to checking each of those parishes for his register and/or his diary.  He may have moved to another Diocese, there are 7 covering NSW and more than 20 in Australia. 

I think this would be the same Rev Henry Dicker, and I note that Appin is in the Diocese of Sydney.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14819547 SMH 8 Jan 1907.  He was 79, and had been at St Marks for 25 years, so he left Coonamble several years after Esther was married. 

Adding  Kylie, just in case here is the link to all the NSW C o E Diocese. My fingers are crossed you don't need to contact each one.   
http://anglicansonline.org/australia/states/new-south-wales.html


Cheers,  JM

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