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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 October 11 21:12 BST (UK) »
He was in the middle, all born when the parents were married.

The other two have both parents on their birth certificate, his just has his father on.

Why?

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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 06 October 11 21:18 BST (UK) »
when I had my first child I was not married and in the hospital the father gave his name on the birth certificate, though I found out later that my son has two certificates, both under the same number, one in my maiden name and one in his fathers name. Ive never seen either of them because I have the original, with both parents on it. Maybe he has another certificate in his mothers maiden name with her on it, on the same page number.

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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 07 October 11 01:20 BST (UK) »
Marymog, your son will only have one original certificate but it is Indexed under each surname of parents, and each entry will have the same reference for the certificate.

As to why a birth is only registered under the father's surname, I can only think that there is an error in the Indexing. I would suggest that your friend contacts the Register Office involved and asks for an explanation.

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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 07 October 11 02:15 BST (UK) »
Who registered the birth?

Maybe he/she didn't know the mother's name!
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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 07 October 11 08:34 BST (UK) »
Marymog, your son will only have one original certificate but it is Indexed under each surname of parents, and each entry will have the same reference for the certificate.

Thanks Colin, I often wondered just why they put it there twice, listing him under two surnames.

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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 07 October 11 08:46 BST (UK) »
I assume the father registered the birth. I will have to ask.

All three siblings know both parents names.

Both parents names appear on two siblings birth certificates but on the third is just the father's name and he would like to know why.  Similarly on the GRO index there is the mothers maiden name for both parents for two, but on the other mothers maiden name gives the father surname.

How can this happen when the mother's name is clearly known? I would have thought it would be impossible to register the birth without the mother's maiden name when it is clearly known.

I just do not know how to advise him. Would the register office be able to give an answer? For him to ask direct questions would be problamatic.

Thank you for all your comments so far.

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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 07 October 11 20:13 BST (UK) »
I just do not know how to advise him. Would the register office be able to give an answer? For him to ask direct questions would be problamatic.

It might just be an error in the index, which hopefully the register office would be able to confirm for you.  I think I might be tempted to purchase a second copy of the certificate, to see what they actually have recorded for that as opposed to just the index.

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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 07 October 11 20:20 BST (UK) »
The fact that there is an entry for MMN means that the mother's name has been recorded, it will not be from the father's name. As julia_pse says, it's more likely to be a mistake in the Indexing.

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Re: Why no mother's name on birth certificate?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 07 October 11 20:30 BST (UK) »
Is the birth cert the one that was issed at the time of his birth ie within the 42 day registration period or another copy purchased at a later date?

If it an an original from the time of his birth, I would suggest contacting the local registrar to see if a correction has been subsequently made. The changes are recorded and dated.

If it is a much later 'copy', I would suggest that if it was obtained from the local register office it has been re-written incorrectly, if it is from the General Register Office, the copy they have on file is wrong ie the local registrar submitted an incorrect quarterly return.

If the GRO birth index shows the correct surname and the mothers maiden name, then it would seem to me that the GRO has a correct copy with all names entered for them to have compiled the index.

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