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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 06 October 11 07:01 BST (UK) »
Thankyou JM
The denomination was Church of England

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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 06 October 11 07:11 BST (UK) »
Right, thanks Chezza, I hope the two threads help explain what is missing from the cert you hold, and secondly how I have found the elusive missing information when I have been searching for my NSW forebears ....

I will try to help further, but will need to make some phone calls and may not have much to report until this coming weekend.

But in the meanwhile, I will look on some hardcopy pre-Federation electoral rolls for around Cobar etc for Rostron, & Bevan,

Oops, nearly forgot, I am sure you realise that Phoebe's birth may have been registered in a different surname to her father's... but that he gave consent to her marriage, so she was obviously not yet 21 when she married. 

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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 06 October 11 07:18 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for all the info.
What I would really like to find out is Phoebes birthplace. Was it NZ ????
Not any info on James Seys Beven either?
Oh well look forward to any info you have .
Regards Cheryl  :) :)

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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 06 October 11 07:31 BST (UK) »
Yes, I realise you want to find Phoebe's birth place, but sometimes the route to that is round about ...  I am hoping that the C of E records for Cobar are easily found, and that in them will be some further clues as to Phoebe's surname at her birth ... from that you could then have a better chance at finding her birth registration...

But here's a sighting for her Dad ...

NSW Electoral Roll 1878  THE BOGAN,

BEVAN,  James S,  residing at Nevertire, Back Block, Macquarie in the Police District of Cannonbar 

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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 06 October 11 07:47 BST (UK) »
So, when Phoebe and George were being interviewed by the C of E clergyman, he asked for information and he recorded it.  That information included
What is your full name 
Where were you born, and he was looking for the place, not just the colony. 
What is your age, and if under 21, who is giving consent to the marriage ... this is usually given by the father, and if he is not available, then by the eldest brother aged over 21, and if that brother is not available, then by the mother.
What is your father's name and occupation
What is your mother's name and occupation
What is your own occupation
Have you ever been married

Those details are then recorded in the local parish records, which are not ever meant to be destroyed, (Church laws cause at least two registers to be established and maintained, to be kept separately from each other in fire proof safe rooms etc ).

It is possible that Phoebe gave her birth name as well as her "known by" name, or perhaps she only gave BEVAN ... but she would have given her age, and her place of birth .... And of course, it is those two pieces of information that you are seeking at this moment.   And, I think I know someone who may have had access to the C of E records at Cobar when looking up one of their own forebears, I cannot promise to have the information you need, but I can promise to try to give you a pointer or two to either find it directly or to find where the information is currently held.  And when you contact those organisations, it is often handy to be able to provide some clues to help those researchers find the entries ... thus the Electoral Roll information about James S Bevan may help you to help them.
 
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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #23 on: Friday 07 October 11 01:29 BST (UK) »

For the death of Rosa, 1926 -

"...I have the death cert of Rosa informant her son.
Where born New Zealand 50years in NSW."


What is the name of this son, who is recorded as informant.

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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #24 on: Friday 07 October 11 06:09 BST (UK) »
I have the death cert of Rosa informant her son.
Where born New Zealand 50years in NSW.

Rosa landed in Melbourne in 1859 from England.

Rosa died in NSW on 29th Oct 1926.
The cert I have is a copy from another researcher not easy to read.
Marriage Cobar NSW age 43 to James Seys Bevan
Where born Sommerset Eng
55 years in NSW
Children of marriage it has No Issue



You appear to be a bit confused here - Rosa died in 1914, Phoebe died in 1926.  Rosa was said to be born in Somerset, Phoebe was said to be born in New Zealand.

I would say it is likely that none of Rosa's children were fathered by James BEVAN which is why it says "no issue".

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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #25 on: Friday 07 October 11 06:42 BST (UK) »
According to her death and funeral notices her name was "Phoebe Contance"

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28059377?searchTerm=phoebe%20rostron&searchLimits=l-decade=192|||l-year=1926

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Re: Phoebe ROSTRON nee BEVAN
« Reply #26 on: Friday 07 October 11 07:02 BST (UK) »
I am a bit confused here - surely it is Phoebe ROSTRON who died in 1926 and her mother Rosa BEVAN died in 1914?

Is it Rosa's death certificate that you have, stating she has been in NSW for 50 years which puts her arriving NSW in about 1864, about the time you have for Phoebe's birth.  (I would not be putting a great deal of faith is this being the actual amount of time she had been in NSW - looks as though it could easily be a guesstimate on the part of the son.)

You probably already have this - Phoebe Constance ROSTRON's funeral notice states she is 'beloved wife of George late of Taree Station, Nymagee' and leaves from her son's residence in Rozelle for the Field of Mars cemetery. A death notice is on p16 of the same issue of the SMH.  Nymagee is where her marriage was registered.
 
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28059351

There is an In memoriam notice for her in 1928 from children Cyril, Ethel and Fred.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16504810?

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