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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 13 October 11 13:13 BST (UK) »
Found a death certificate for Isabella in Inverness in 1880 (confirmed & witnessed by Isaac):

This opened up her parents:

William Beaton & Jane (Fraser).  I couldn't find any records other than a death certificate for a Jane Fraser in Inverness.  She was born in 1803, which ties in with the daughter Isabella being born ~1826.

If this Jane (who is the only one I can find) is def Isabella's mother, then I have parents for her as: John Fraser and Isabella Fraser (ms Fraser?)  This could take me back to the 1700s - wahoo!
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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 14 October 11 09:01 BST (UK) »
Found a death certificate for Mary McLeod, Isaac's mother.

d 11-3-64 30 Huntly St, Inverness
Widow of Isaac McLeod, P......... (looks like Pensioner)
70 years old
Informant - Isaac McLeod, Son, Present

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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 14 October 11 09:34 BST (UK) »
Interesting...

So the death cert states she is a widow of an Isaac McLeod.  In which case, I wonder why her name was down as Mary (Lap) in the 41 census and not Mcleod?  And why on the 'son' Isaac's death certificate in 1889 did it state parents not known?

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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 October 11 11:34 BST (UK) »
In Scotland, women never legally 'lost' their maiden names and particularly in the earlier censuses can show under their maiden names rather than married surnames. Same situation with widows.

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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 14 October 11 11:53 BST (UK) »
I am a little scepticle on this:

Death certificate for Mary McLeod, Isaac's mother.

d 11-3-64 30 Huntly St, Inverness
Widow of Isaac McLeod, P......... (looks like Pensioner)
70 years old
Informant - Isaac McLeod, Son, Present

--   If Isaac's father was also Isaac as per Mary's death cert details above and his mother 'was' Mary, I can't fathom why it said parents not known on his death certificate in 1894.  The devious side of me thinks Mary had adopted young Isaac and for some reason listed her Husband as being called Isaac...  To add to this, I can find no record of any marriage of any of the only 2 other Isaacs on SP, other than the marriage of Isaac and Isabella. ???

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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 14 October 11 15:30 BST (UK) »
Records, as you are finding, don't always make themselves available when you need them!

One of the main problems that you are having here is that many of the events you are trying to find are before the start of official registration in Scotland from 1855 onwards. Records before this year will be from, in the main, the Old Parish Registers (OPRs) which as you have already found were most often mininal info/one liners.

The OPRs record events from the established Church of Scotland - i.e. presbyterian.

There are lots of reasons why you may not find birth or marriage entries in these registers, not exclusively due to:

- family belonged to a different religeous denomination and any remaining records may not be avaible on line for this.
- registers lost or destroyed over the years.
- it cost money to register these events, many families could not afford to do so.

Don't be so surprised that at the time of Isaac's death his parents were shown as unknown to the informant.  I am right in thinking that by the time Isaac died, wife Isabella had also already died? Over the years, the informants to deaths (if family to the deceased) could forget this info and not uncommon.

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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 14 October 11 15:51 BST (UK) »
Monica - thanks for the sanity check.

You were right that Isaac's death was probably reported by a family member (son Alfred).  And I suppose it is very plausible that he didn't know the names of his grandparents.

And you are also right that it is frustrating that when information is being sought it often comes with large gaps of waiting in between.

I was hopeful that with an unusual name as Isaac I could have got a bit further back - but that's not going to happen (yet).

Still, I have found out some good information and also traced Isabella Beaton's line back to her grandparents ~1770/80s.  Jacobite Rebellion - her i come...
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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 10 November 12 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I have been searching for last couple of years to find Mary Lap/McLeod and further back.  She would of been my great great great grandmother. I have tried to look through passenger lists etc to no avail as I see she came here from Portugal. I wondered if Mary had met her husband during Napoleonic war or similar and settled here following. I notice your post is from over a year ago but if you have managed to get any further I would be grateful if you could get in touch through this site.
Thanks.

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Re: Isaac Mcleod and Beaton?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I am amazed to come across this post.  I'm Gillian and Isaac was my great great grandad.  Unfortunately I have also hit a wall with Mary Lap.  However, in one of the handwritten documents I checked out online, it actually looked more like "Lop" to me than "Lap".  Lop does appear to be a valid portuguese surname - a version of Lopez I think?????  Just thought I'd mention that in case it helps open up any avenues.  I'd be really interested to hear if anyone finds out any more! :)