Does anyone remember a James Arthur Yeadon - known as Frank (Blackpool)

[suzard]

Hi CaroleW
Well I am glad you pointed that out because I hadn't noticed that. Sometimes we dont spot the mistakes we make even when they are glaringly obvious - thats why I'm so grateful of everyones help I get on here. 
I have ordered the death certificate detailed below for him - I hope its the right one. It is strange his age says 87. Did they often get this wrong on certificates?
The reason being is looking again at the births you kindly gave me - I think I had the wrong birth record for him. I assumed the Wharfedale birth was his, given the census information, but I actually think, the 1884 Leeds birth is more likely - I haven't yet purchased a birth certificate. Looking at a map, Wharfedale is near Filey on the coast and Great Ouseburn nearer York. The 1891 Census shows him living in Bradford, Age 5, born in Rawdon Leeds.The 1901 census shows him living in Bramley, Leeds, Age 15, born in Rawdon, Leeds. Therefore I think the 1884 Leeds birth record is more likely him, which would make him 81 when he died and 26 when he married in September 1911, which his marriage certificate states.
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IThe age at death is only the age given by the informant -so can ometimes be wrong -but in this case a bigger possibility seems to be that the "1" has been mistranscribed as "7" hence the error in age 87 instead of 81 - simple mistake to make.
My grandfather was 36 when he married but on the copy of marriage certificate which I sent for from GRO his age has been transcribed as 30

Suz

[heywood]

Hello,
does he give his father's name on his marriage certificate? That would help identify him for his birth.

There is a marriage in 1906 for a James Arthur Yeadon, Leeds and he seems to be in 1911 indexes with his wife Margaret as James A. He is 27 yrs born abt 1884.

1911 indexes also show James Arthur living in Bramley with Albert also in household which would fit with 1901 you quote Sophie.

heywood

[Sophie30]

Thank you both for the info.

The plot thickens as to where James Arthur Eadon was on the eve of the census. I know he was working in the music halls and we believe his stage name was Frank mcKay (sounds like tie - dont know how to spell it). I know in later years people knew him as Frank - I wonder if he used his stage name on the census? Or if he was just out performing when the census took place, hence wasn't captured. I imagine he would have probably been boarding with someone. I think Elizabeth Jackson was living with her mother Isabella England (Isabella Jackson - I think she married the father of Elizabeth eventually - despite Elizabeth being born out of wedlock).

Thanks so much for your kind help

[heywood]

Hello again,

I have just seen a tree with the marriage details and his father was Albert. If you search the 1911 indexes - he is there as James Arthur b 1886. He is in Bramley and there is an Albert Yeadon b 1841 in the household.

heywood

[Sophie30]

Hi Heywood

On the wedding certificate James A Yeadons father is called Albert.

Hmmmm the marriage in 1906 could be him - he was born (if the Leeds birth info is the correct record) in 1884. Might that be why they married in a registry office - it states bachelor on the certificate so if he had been married before would it have said widowed or divorced.

I'm a little confused as you say the indexes for 1911 also have a James Arthur living in Bramley with Albert - did you mean the 1911 census shows this? If so that is definately him, as he did live in Bramley (called his son Eric 'Bramley' Yeadon) and his father was Albert, therefore I wonder if he married in 1906 and Margaret whoever she was died, or they divorced, separated and he returned back to live with Albert before remarrying in 1911!

Oh these music hall artistes - what colourful lives they lead!! You wouldn't believe the mysteries I have come across with my great grandparents, James and Elizabeth!  I hope he was widowed/divorced - he separated eventually from Elizabeth but I dont think they ever divorced - not sure as I dont know how/where to search divorce records

[Sophie30]

Oh, sorry reading your post again, he couldn't have been in two places at once. I guess the James A Yeadon living with Margaret in 1911 (married in 1906) cant be him, could it??

[heywood]

Sorry - you have misunderstood.

It looks as though James Arthur b Leeds is married to Margaret and living with her in 1911.

James Arthur son of Albert is still with him in 1911 indexes. He is entered as James Arthur b 1886 and is in Bramley with Albert.
Have another search for him 

The two James are two separate entries and people.

[heywood]

It is odd that Elizabeth died in Blackpool too.

[Sophie30]

I know - I think they remained close although separated? Who knows, she was quite a girl?!!

I am about to post under Middlesbrough forum as I have finally found a record of sorts where she is listed in the Middlesbrough Music Unions Concert Book as a Soprano (I assume with a chorus but not sure) First piece of hard evidence she was a singer :-)