Turnastone marriage - Broade/Lodington 1722

[James R. Yeowell]

Thank you, Valentine.

There's a few Susanna's she could be.  I shall go through them and find the most likely candidate.  The obvious ones, however, are as follows:

1. Susannah Lodington, christened 1 May 1689, St. Mary's Church, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire and daughter of my 5th Great Grandparents, Rev. Isaac Lodington, M.A., vicar of Aylesbury, Dean of Buckden and his wife Ann Bedford -- she had a sister Anne Lodington (chr. 29 Dec 1685, St. Mary's Church, Aylesbury)

n.b. the above Rev. Isaac Lodington's grandson (via his son Isaac) was Thomas Lodington (1723-1766) who married Anne Broade (sister of Francis), daughter of Rev. Thomas Broade, M.A., rector of Benefield and his wife Ann Lodington (possibly the Anne above, sister of Susannah and both daughters of Rev. Isaac Lodington)

2. Susannah Lodington, chr. 14 Oct 1718, St. Margaret Lothbury, London and daughter of John Lodington (son of Rev. Isaac Lodington and Ann Bedford) and Mary Lodington (I have yet to find out who her Lodington forebears are either) -- this is probably a bit late to be the Susannah Lodington on your inscription.  Plus she also had a sister Ann but she was born too late to be the wife of Rev. Thomas Broade.

3. Although no proof, she could also be the daughter of John Lodington (buried 24 September 1701, St. Margaret Lothbury) and his wife Susanna (buried 17 October 1718, St. Margaret Lothbury) who had a son Nathaniel Lodington born 2 August 1697 and christened 8 August 8 Aug 1697 at St. Margaret Lothbury.  Nathaniel is a name that also shows in the Isaac branch (as a grandson of the Rev. Isaac Lodington), thus maybe proving such a link.

n.b. of course, the Mary Lodington who married on 12 December 1717 at Lincoln's Inn Chapel, to John Lodington (mentioned above) was said to have been of St. Margaret's Lothbury and was born circa 1694, so she could also be a daughter of John Lodington and Susanna -- especially as this couple had a son named Nathaniel.

It is looking very much like Ann(e) Lodington, wife of Rev. Thomas Broade (and parents of Rev. Francis Broade) is therefore the daughter of Rev. Isaac Lodington and Ann Bedford and thus her sister Susanna(h) would have been the aunt of Rev. Francis Broade.

This is excellent news, Valentine.  You have solved this issue rather nicely!  Of course, it would now be great for me to find proof she is the daughter of Rev. Isaac Lodington and I am hoping the Turnastone registers indicate this.

Thank you again for your interesting postings.  It's always wonderful to see old books (I have always fancied myself at being an Antiquarian but I do not have the space or money to be one) and especially ones with a personal touch.  I presume you did not inherit the book?

Addendum: I plan on making a website at a later date regarding my Lodington ancestors, so I was going to ask whether it was all right to use the image you uploaded on there?  I shall of course reference it back to you as well.

Kind regards,

James R. Yeowell

[ValentineHewitt]

Thanks James,

(1) Noting that the inscription states "Mrs Susanna Lodington was gifted the book by her father in 1716", it means that she was definitely married at this date, and hence the birth year of 1689 fits very well since she would have been 27 years old when she received the book.

(2) In view of the fact that this is a religious book (saints & apostles), it seems very appropriate that her father was also a full Minister of the Church - Rev Isaac Lodington.  In addition the final publication date of the book - 1677 (this was a 1st Edition of this particular work by the theologian William Cave) - ties in well with this generalogical scenario.

So I agree that the most likely conclusion to be drawn from your searches is that Ann(e) (b 1685)  and Susanna(h) (b 1689) Lodington were indeed sisters and the daughters of the Rev Isaac Lodington and Ann Bedford from Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire!

I should add that I acquired the book from an antique book dealer as part of my small collection of 17thC religious works. My great-grandfather, and also his father were Ministers of the Baptist Church in South Wales during the the late 19thC/early 20thC, so I guess that I also have some "religious" genes although I've never studied theology. I'm always interested in the provenance of antique books since during the 17thC they were valuable family assets, and passed on by inheritance through several generations as in the case of this book.

Thanks so much for all your extremely helpful information which I will print out and keep within the book for future generations! Best Regards - Valentine

[James R. Yeowell]

Valentine,

Thanks for the prompt reply.

I did just note the "Mrs Susanna Lodington" however.  This would suggest she was married.  I have found nothing pertaining to this being true.  If Susanna was the daughter of Rev. Isaac Lodington, then she would surely be "Miss Susanna Lodington"?  Unless, of course, she married an as yet unknown individual and was still referred to by her maiden name, or her husband had died by this time.  There are a few Lodington's who married Susanna(h)s though.  None however really fit datewise.  The only one that does married in 1735, which I feel is too late, bearing in mind he was handed the book in 1733 and she was married by this time.  Plus that is her own hand and written in 1716.  Rev. Isaac Lodington was still living in 1716 (he died in 1729) but her mother, Ann (née Bedford) was deceased (1714).

Did unmarried women call themselves Mrs. at this time, do you know?  Alternatively, did married women refer to themselves by their maiden name?

I have no idea what may have happened to other collections within this family.  They would have likely handed down other books to the other children.

One thing I still have yet to check out is Rev. Isaac Lodington's Will.  This, I hope, would solve the above issues.

Best regards,

James.

[Ruskie]

James, I believe that married women were often known by their maiden names in Scotland, and I believe that housekeepers were always known as "Mrs" even if they were unmarried, but I'm not sure if there are other examples of this.

[ValentineHewitt]

James,

(1) I would imagine that since this was a "Lodington Family Book" that Susanna might well sign the book inscription with her maiden name (Lodington).

(2) I also agree that since she was already 27 years old in 1716, that even if she was unmarried, she might still refer to herself as "Mrs" in "Her" book. The "Mrs" might even have been a private desire to become married in the near future, or that she already had a romantic relationship?!

In any case, the above is personal speculation that only cold hard facts can fully verify! Thanks-Again for all your detailed information , help & support!

Best Regards - Valentine

[ValentineHewitt]

Hi James,

I re-read your response, and see that you plan to set up a Lodington Family Archive Website  in the future. So in thanks for all your kind support, I've uploaded a website of the family book to help you on your way - You're welcome to upload and reuse any of these images for your site!

http://www.valentina.net/Lodington/index.html

You'll also note that on the cover & back of the binding there are the letters: W BROOKS - However, since the book has clearly been rebound at sometime it is difficult to say whether the front & back boards are contemporary with the 17thC publication of the book, or 18th/19thC additions. The spine is definitely a 20thC repair since I in common with many 17thC Books, the Boards become detached after the binding cords eventually rot! I did try a quick on-line research for "W BROOKS", and connections with "LODINGTON" but drew a complete blank!

Anyway - Thanks again for providing such background & provenance to the book:) - Valentine

[Ruskie]

Valentine,

It is fascinating to see the images of the book. You are so lucky to be it's custodian. The book looks to be in very good condition. How long have you owned it?

Gosh, if I were James, I would be so envious that you have this book which used to belong to an ancestor. To think that his ancestors read those pages and wrote their name so many years ago, is difficult for me to comprehend. (I live in Australia so am impressed by old things, as there is new all around me.  )

[brothers-searcher]

James,
Have you checked the Will of Rev Thomas Broade yet?
If not there is mention of his wife Ann, Daughter Ann, wife of Thomas Lodington, son Rev Francis Broade.

Lorraine

[mpalmann]

Hi James - I came across your post whilst searching for information about Francis William Lodington, Rector of Brington & Old Weston 1839-1857, Huntingdonshire and I see that you have a lot of information about the family. I am looking for some biograpical detail for this gentleman to put together a note about his life for Brington Church of which I am churchwarden. I only started this project today so have not got too far yet! Would you be able to fill in any details about him for me by any chance? I would like to know about his own issue as well as his forebears if possible. They seem to have been a family full of priests from what I can tell to date! Anything you can tell me would be gratefully received! Many thanks. Marion

Thank you, Valentine.

There's a few Susanna's she could be.  I shall go through them and find the most likely candidate.  The obvious ones, however, are as follows:

1. Susannah Lodington, christened 1 May 1689, St. Mary's Church, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire and daughter of my 5th Great Grandparents, Rev. Isaac Lodington, M.A., vicar of Aylesbury, Dean of Buckden and his wife Ann Bedford -- she had a sister Anne Lodington (chr. 29 Dec 1685, St. Mary's Church, Aylesbury)

n.b. the above Rev. Isaac Lodington's grandson (via his son Isaac) was Thomas Lodington (1723-1766) who married Anne Broade (sister of Francis), daughter of Rev. Thomas Broade, M.A., rector of Benefield and his wife Ann Lodington (possibly the Anne above, sister of Susannah and both daughters of Rev. Isaac Lodington)

2. Susannah Lodington, chr. 14 Oct 1718, St. Margaret Lothbury, London and daughter of John Lodington (son of Rev. Isaac Lodington and Ann Bedford) and Mary Lodington (I have yet to find out who her Lodington forebears are either) -- this is probably a bit late to be the Susannah Lodington on your inscription.  Plus she also had a sister Ann but she was born too late to be the wife of Rev. Thomas Broade.

3. Although no proof, she could also be the daughter of John Lodington (buried 24 September 1701, St. Margaret Lothbury) and his wife Susanna (buried 17 October 1718, St. Margaret Lothbury) who had a son Nathaniel Lodington born 2 August 1697 and christened 8 August 8 Aug 1697 at St. Margaret Lothbury.  Nathaniel is a name that also shows in the Isaac branch (as a grandson of the Rev. Isaac Lodington), thus maybe proving such a link.

n.b. of course, the Mary Lodington who married on 12 December 1717 at Lincoln's Inn Chapel, to John Lodington (mentioned above) was said to have been of St. Margaret's Lothbury and was born circa 1694, so she could also be a daughter of John Lodington and Susanna -- especially as this couple had a son named Nathaniel.

It is looking very much like Ann(e) Lodington, wife of Rev. Thomas Broade (and parents of Rev. Francis Broade) is therefore the daughter of Rev. Isaac Lodington and Ann Bedford and thus her sister Susanna(h) would have been the aunt of Rev. Francis Broade.

This is excellent news, Valentine.  You have solved this issue rather nicely!  Of course, it would now be great for me to find proof she is the daughter of Rev. Isaac Lodington and I am hoping the Turnastone registers indicate this.

Thank you again for your interesting postings.  It's always wonderful to see old books (I have always fancied myself at being an Antiquarian but I do not have the space or money to be one) and especially ones with a personal touch.  I presume you did not inherit the book?

Addendum: I plan on making a website at a later date regarding my Lodington ancestors, so I was going to ask whether it was all right to use the image you uploaded on there?  I shall of course reference it back to you as well.

Kind regards,

James R. Yeowell