Turnastone marriage - Broade/Lodington 1722

[James R. Yeowell]

I have now had a look through "Monumental inscriptions in the Cathedral Church of Hereford" and found some Broade's I did not know about before.

There is a latin memorial to an Edward Broade who seems to have been vicar of Wellington (I need the Latin translated).  Further down the page it notes another Broade and wife (no forenames), vicar choral.

Beneath those two, is listed the following in parentheses:

Thomas Broade, Custos, died 1709.
John Broade, died 1703

And then below that:

Edward Broade, vicar, buried May 17, 1704.
Richard Broade, bookseller, buried Oct. 17,1704

The Thomas Broade, Custos, could conceivably be the Rev. Thomas Broade, of Mordiford, mentioned previously.

Therefore, the Thomas Broade who was buried in 1738 in Chaldon, could be his son, who I have a christening for but no further details.  Again, I shall see what I can find.  I am sure Rev. Edward Broade though is related to the family.

Addenda: Edward Broade was indeed vicar of Wellington, Herefordshire, as proved here:

The church’s bells were inscribed in the 17th Century, in Latin, as follows:

    “Deus miserere Meus Jesus Nazareus. Rex Judeor”. Translation - My God My Jesus of Nazareth, have mercy. King of the Jews. King’s heads are inserted as stops.
    2. Prece Marie. Dulce sonet et amene”. Translation – Pray Mary let the bells sound sweetly with harmony.
    3. “Gloria: Deo: in Excelsis”. 1695. Translation – Glory to God in the Highest.
    4. “Ed: Broade: vicar: Henry Rogers gent: Will Chester Chwardens, Will Towne Gt: Rich. Walton”. 1693. A.Rudhall.
    “Ora pro nobis; Nicholavs: Sancte; Nicolae”. Translation – pray for us Holy Nicholas.
    “Gloria Deo”. Glory to God. A small bell.
    The bells were re-hung in 1913.

Richard Broade, the bookseller, could also be the son of Rev. Thomas Broade, of Mordiford and therefore the brother of both Rev. Francis Broade, prebendary of Hereford and Thomas Broade (chr. 17 November 1669) and potentially the rector of Chaldon who died in 1738.  I have a Richard Broade as being christened 18 September 1673 and being the son of Thomas Broade and Margery Hereford.

[James R. Yeowell]

Bingo!  This fits as showing that Rev. Thomas Broade, of Chaldon married and had a daughter Ann (and possibly a son Richard Broade as well):

n.b. the parish of Coulsdon is situate north-west of Chaldon

20 May, 1738. Richard Wood of Coulsdon, farmer, bachelor, 21,
and Anne Broad of the same parish, spinster, 14 ; at St. George,
Christ Church, or St. Saviour, Southwark. By and with the consent
of John Chelsome her brother-in-law and testamentary guardian of
her father, Thomas Broad. Anthony Wood of St. Mary, Newington,
co. Surrey, baker, makes oath that he saw the said John Chelsome
sign the consent ...... he is also one of the sureties.

To the Worshipful Charles Pinfold, Doctor of Laws, Surrogate of
the Right Worshipful the Chancellor of the Diocese of Winton, or any
other competent Judge in this behalf.

These are to certify that I, John Chelsam, one of the executors
of the last will and testament of Thomas Broad, late of the parish of
Coulsdon, in the county of Surrey, widower, deceased, and testa-
mentary guardian by the said will of Anne Broad, the daughter of
the said deceased, am consenting to the marriage of the said Anne to
Richard Wood of the said parish of Coulsdon. In witness whereof I
have hereunto set my hand this fifteenth day of May, 1738. Witnesses,
John Chelsome, Anthony Wood.

And here's what could be Thomas' son, Richard:

6 Nov. 1764.  Richard Broade, of St. John, Southwark, abode 4 weeks, yeoman, he marks, bachelor, 21, and Ann Johnson of the same parish, spinster, 21 ; at St. John, Southwark

Although he may have been born too late to be the son of Thomas Broade.  So I shall note this with caution.

Addendum: this actually throws up more confusion, as if indeed this Anne Broade was 14 years in 1738, then this would mean she was born in 1724.  This happens to be the same year of birth as the Anne Broade, daughter of Rev. Thomas Broade, rector of Turnastone, rector of Benefield and vicar of Chaldon and the same as I have noted down as marrying Thomas Lodingtin 1747 at the Chapel of Somerset House.  So either the Anne Broade who married Thomas Lodington is a different individual, or the above marriage was annulled early.  However, as noted previously, her father Rev. Thomas Broade supposedly was buried on 24 November 1753 in Benefield and is not the Rev. Thomas Broade who died in 1738 and was buried in Chaldon.

The only thing I can think of, is that the Rev. Thomas Broade who was vicar of Chaldon in 1726 is not the same individual who was rector of Benefield and Turnaston, despite what Foster's Index Ecclesiasticus says on the contrary.

Plus the above record that Sandy posted indicates Rev. Thomas Broade was vicar of Chaldon between 1726 and 1740 (which would be correct, although it should be 1738, as his will was proved in 1740).

So are there two contemporary Rev. Thomas Broade's?

Further to the above, I have just checked my Surrey burials CD and found a whole lot of Broad(e)s in Chaldon and Coulsdon, so I think there could be some confusion with the two Rev. Thomas Broade's.

The Broad(e)s I have found:

Broad, [ch Thomas], buried 17 May 1695, Chaldon
Broad, Ann, buried 11 May 1708, Chaldon
Broad, Ann [d Thomas], buried 29 June 1713, Coulsdon
Broad, Ann [w Thomas], buried 22 December 1722, Coulsdon
Broad, John, buried 13 September 1797, Coulsdon
Broad, John [s Thomas], buried 2 May 1722, Coulsdon
Broad, Susannah [w Thomas], buried 18 May 1735, Coulsdon
Broad, Thomas, buried 3 May 1721, Chaldon
Broad, Thomas, buried 29 July 1737, Coulsdon
Broade, Elizabeth, buried 1 November 1758, Chaldon

I shall now check the marriages:

James John Broad. married Mary Ann Nunn in October 1835 in Chaldon
John Broad, of Nutfield, Surrey and Emma Miles, married on 31 October 1725 in Coulsdon
Thomas Broad, of Chaldon and Mary Wood, married on 4 June 1672 in Coulsdon
William Broad, of the parish and Ann Charlton, of the parish, married on 26 February 1806 in Chaldon
Ann Broad and George Champniss, married in March 1826 in Chaldon
Catherine Broad, of the parish and Joseph Gray, of the parish, married on 6 June 1710
Elizabeth Broad and John Chelsome, of Ewelme, married on 27 November 1735 in Coulsdon
Elizabeth Broad and George Fludder, married in July 1824 in Chaldon
Martha Broad, of the parish and William Senier, of Clewer, Berkshire, married on 14 February 1805, in Chaldon
Mary Broad, of Bletchingley, and Richard Birkin, of Chaldon, married on 10 April 1757 at Chaldon and Bletchingley
Patience Broad and John Haswell, married on 29 March 1719 in Coulsdon
Ruth Broad, of St. Botolph Billingsgate, and William Newman, of St. Catherine Coleman Street, London, married on 8 May 1732 in Chaldon
Joan  Broade, of the parish and John King, of the parish, married on 27 February 1709 in Chaldon

[James R. Yeowell]

I have found a christening for an Anne Broad on 9 March 1724 at Coulsdon and she is the daughter of Thomas Broad and Susannah.  So either there was a total coincidence and the above Thomas Broad who married Susannah and whose daughter Anne Broad married Richard Wood, is a completely different individual to the Rev. Thomas Broade, rector of Chaldon who died in 1738, or they are the same individual and researchers have gotten confused.

I do note that the burial of 29 July 1737 in Coulsdon for a Thomas Broad differs to the death date of the Rev. Thomas Broade, rector of Chaldon, which was in 1738, so it may indeed just be a coincidence.

I am still confused though as there is still two different death/burial dates for a Rev. Thomas Broade, rector of Chaldon.  My suspicions are that the rector of Chaldon (who apparently was rector between 1726 and 1740) was not the same individual as the Rev. Thomas Broade, rector of Turnastone and Benefield.

[James R. Yeowell]

I have found the will of Rev. Thomas Broade who died in 1757 and possibly of his wife (Anne Lodington), which was made on 19 May 1767 and she was a widow of Benefield.

It looks promising.  So I shall order those two, as well as the ones for Rev. Francis Broade, of Southwick (8 November 1791) and Martha Broade (née Lynn), Widow, of Southwick (19 March 1796).

I am not sure whether they will reveal who Anne Broade (née Lodington) was the daughter of but they may of course be very important.  Especially as Anne Broade (who is my ancestor) married my ancestor Thomas Lodington.

[James R. Yeowell]

Sandy,

I've just remembered that Rev. Joseph Lodington, M.A, B.A., Prebendary of Lincoln, vicar of Horbling, Lincolnshire, vicar of Woodnesborough, Kent, vicar of Chart Sutton, Kent and vicar and curate of Oundle, Northamptonshire, was apparently buried at Benefield.  He died in December 1806 (he was vicar of Oundle at this time).

Could you perhaps check to see when he was buried?  Also, if that book on clergyman of Northamptonshire has any further details about him, I'd be extremely grateful.

He was vicar of Oundle between 1796 and 1806 and curate of Oundle between 1783 and 1785.

He married on 5 June 1787 at St. Mildred Poultry with St. Mary Colechurch, London, to Joanna Maria Smith (born 15 September 1755 and christened 8 October 1755 at St. Mary Colechurch, London and daughter of John Smith, of Bucklersbury, London and his wife Hannah Mills, daughter of Rev. Henry Mills, M.A., B.A., rector of Merstham, Surrey.  I do not know when or where she died or was buried but she may well have been buried in Benefield or Oundle.

They had four children:

1. Rev. Francis William Lodington, B.D., M.A., B.A., rector of Brington and Bythorn and Old Weston, Huntingdonshire and deacon of Buckden -- he was christened 22 August 1790 in Southwick and died 30 January 1857.
2. Caroline Grace Lodington, born about 1794, Southwell, Northamptonhire (I think it should be Southwick) and married Edward William Smith on 23 June 1825 at Oundle.  He was son of William Edward Smith (son of the aforementioned John Smith, of Bucklersbury and his wife Hannah Mills) and Mary Saffory, daughter of John Saffory and Ann
3. Rev. Henry John Lodington, born 5 August 1798, Oundle and died 7 August 1864, Sittingbourne, Kent.  Unfortunately I have no further details about his clerical life
4. Martha Lynn Lodington, died 6 April 1884, 62 Pembroke Road, London

Many apologies for not mentioning these individuals earlier but I didn't notice until now where they were born and where Rev. Joseph Lodington was vicar and curate.

Many thanks in advance.

Best regards,

James R. Yeowell

[ValentineHewitt]

Greetings,

I came across this discussion whilst researching the provenance of an old 17thC religious book in my collection. The preface of the book is signed "Francis Broade"  - His Book - Given to me by my dear Aunt Susanna Lodington - July the 2nd 1733. Given the connections between Broad/Lodington it would seem that the Francis Broade probably refers to the REV Francis Broade DD, particularly since the book is on the Life of Christ, the Apostles & Saints.

There is also a further inscription - Mrs Susanna Lodington - Her Book of Gift of my Dear Father - 1716.  The book itself was published in London, 1677.

 I can post a scan of the book inscription if this is of any interest.

[James R. Yeowell]

Valentine,

That is an excellent post.  Many thanks for sharing it with us.  It is also very pleasing to hear such a book exists with this inscription on.  It would be interesting to know whether other such books exist with inscriptions on by members of the Broade and Lodington family.  I know some portraits of Lodington family members are in existence in Lincolnshire.

A scan would be wonderful.  I am not sure whether you can post it here or not, so if you have any issues with this, do let me know and I'll supply you with my e-mail address.

Best regards,

James R. Yeowell

[ValentineHewitt]

Hi James,

I've uploaded the signature scan image to the following weblink:

http://www.valentina.net/Francis-Broade-Susanna-Lodington-1733.jpg

It seems that Francis would have been around 10 years old when he was presented with this book by his Aunt Susanna Lodington, who I guess may have been a sister to Ann Lodington who was the wife of Thomas Broade, father of Francis Broade. I can find no further information with regards to Susanna.

I hope this is useful! The book is a massive tome of over 1000 pages,  with 3 religious works bound together that were printed in London in the years 1667, 1675 & 1677.

Best Regards - Valentine

[Ruskie]

Welcome to rootschat Valentine (nice name by the way  ). Your book sounds fascinating - what a wonderful object to have in your possession.