Brick wall at Grandmother

[toni*]

i dont think you can conclusively rule out the Elizabeth that Carol found earlier unless you can find her on the 1901 census

[jackh]

Hi Toni,
Not conclusively but Church is near Accrington about 50 miles from Liverpool so I think unlikely.
Jack

[kath davis]

I have tried another approach - I assumed either or both parents had died in York between 1871 and 1881.  Using Ancestry I found a Charles Taylor, died Q1 1873 in York.  I then looked in the 1871 census for Charles Taylor, born Liverpool in 1831 and found this family in East Yorkshire.  The fact that the youngest child is Elizabeth, age 3 makes me feel it is worth further investigation.   

Charles Taylor   40
Betty Taylor   36
Florence Mam Taylor   13
Merriam Taylor   10
George Taylor   7
Elizabeth Ellen Taylor   3

Happy Hunting
Kath

[jackh]

Thanks Kath,
I was hoping for some lateral thinking but alas this family were alive in 1881. They are definitely same family.

16 Star Street, Broughton in Salford, Yorkshire
Charles Taylor       head 50 widower  Lancs, Liverpool
Miriam Taylor       daur 19             Lancs, Manchester
George Taylor        son  17                   Yks, Bradford
Elizabeth Ellen Taylor daur  13      Durham, Bishop Auckland

I have positively accounted for every Eliza Taylor born in the Liverpool area included in the GRO so perhaps they didn’t register or fill in censuses.

Jack

[kath davis]

Jack

Now I am confused - I thought according to your first post that Eliza, 7 and Elizabeth, 13 were in the York Workhouse in 1881.

Kath

[jackh]

Kath, Sorry if I confused you. I should have said they were the same family you refered to but since they were alive in 1881 they cannot be the family I am looking for.
Thanks, Jack

[kath davis]

Thanks for the clarification.  Back to the drawing board then.

Kath

[Ladyhawk]

At her marriage she gave her fathers name as Charles Taylor, Artist,
though I wonder if this is fictitious

Of course I am looking for her parents and any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in anticipation

Was Charles noted as deceased on marriage cert.

I wonder what sort of 'Artist ' he was  - a performer - a painter 

Have found these details of a  Charles Taylor who's occ painter maybe be nothing but worth a look

Bapt 16 Jun 1843
St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Charles Taylor parents William Taylor occ Painter & Margery
Abode: Winwick Street

Marriage: 6 Nov 1864 St Michael Toxteth Lancashire, England
Charles Taylor 22 PAINTER Bach Pleasant Hill St F William Taylor Painter
Catherine Ettles - 21 Spin Pleasant Hill St F William Ettles, Mariner
Witness: Robert Williams; Marian Wright, (X)

Not found Charles & Catherine together 1871

There is however this Catherine on 1871 with son

Catherine TAYLOR ditto M 1842 Liverpool 3rd ? Officers wife
John William Taylor son 1 year 11 months Bootle

1881 RG11; Piece: 3653; Folio: 39; Page: 16;
Catherine Taylor widowed 1842 Liverpool Servant

1891 RG12; Piece: 2965; Folio 17; Page 28
Catharine Taylor widowed 1842 Liverpool Shopkeeper (Haberdashery)

There is also this baptism but father's occ. Labourer 
13 Mar 1868  St Martin Liverpool
Elizabeth Mary Taylor  parents Charles Taylor & Catherine
Abode: Hopwood St

Can't find this family together either on 1871c

[lizdb]

I have positively accounted for every Eliza Taylor born in the Liverpool area included in the GRO so perhaps they didn’t register or fill in censuses.

Have you ruled out the other ELiza's? (s in reply #3)
She could well have been registered with another surname, and that is why we cant find her.
Otherwise, as I said before, one or more of the pieces of info (date, name, place) must be incorrect - the challenge is finding which!