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Sing Sing prison - Rossom
« on: Sunday 02 October 11 19:06 BST (UK) »
I was wondering if anyone can help me find out if an ancestor was in sing sing prison around 1904/5
The old family story goes - 2nd great grandad Thomas Rosum left his wife and children to go to America and end up in sing sing prison - not to be seen again.

What I have been able to prove - He did go to America in 1904 it states on ship documents that he is going to see him brother Joseph Rossom, but he had to have been back in England in 1905 as he had a daughter born in 1906 and he appears on the 1911 census living with his family.

I think the story could be possibly be about his brother Joseph and the details have become a bit mixed up over the years. Thomas states he is going to see his brother - but his brother is 15 years older and the last time he saw him was when he was only 3. Their father died in 1902 and Thomas was the only surviving brother - so is it possible that word was sent from America and he went to help his older brother? I have details on Joseph on the 1900 & 1910 American census.
 
If someone could do a look up or point me in the right direction I would be very grateful. Hope this makes sense. Many thanks.
ROSUM, BIXLEY, BROUGHTON, SKILTON - SURREY

MILES, GOSLING, CHAMBERLAIN, CROSS, HARRIS, FISHER, GOODENOUGH, WOODLEY,  WIGGINS, DAWSON, JONES, LAY, LOVEGROVE - BERKSHIRE

WRIGHT, WIGGINTON, HERBERT, - WARWICKSHIRE

WHITE - DEVON

TAYLOR, BIGGS, STRATFORD, COOK, BOULTON - WILTSHIRE/GLOUCESTER

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Re: Sing Sing prison - Rossom
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 October 11 19:08 BST (UK) »
The 2 brothers spelt their surname slightly different - Rossom & Rosum.
ROSUM, BIXLEY, BROUGHTON, SKILTON - SURREY

MILES, GOSLING, CHAMBERLAIN, CROSS, HARRIS, FISHER, GOODENOUGH, WOODLEY,  WIGGINS, DAWSON, JONES, LAY, LOVEGROVE - BERKSHIRE

WRIGHT, WIGGINTON, HERBERT, - WARWICKSHIRE

WHITE - DEVON

TAYLOR, BIGGS, STRATFORD, COOK, BOULTON - WILTSHIRE/GLOUCESTER

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Re: Sing Sing prison - Rossom
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 October 11 21:26 BST (UK) »
Could this be him?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=559834.new#new

News Paper N Dakota

1904-03-01;
Paper: Grand Forks Herald

This man had a wife and 6 children. He died Sept. 1911 at Jamestown Asylum
SCHOFIELD - Lancashire, Manchester, Oldham

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Re: Sing Sing prison - Rossom
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 October 11 07:34 BST (UK) »
Good find, Ohio Susan!

Someone was questioning his ancestor's arrival to America.  The man in question was Joseph Rozum, who died in 1911.  He apparently arrived in 1868.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fhi/
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)


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Re: Sing Sing prison - Rossom
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 October 11 15:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies. What a great find Ohio Susan, do you know the names of the wife and 6 children? My ancestor was from England, his wife was from Ireland.
ROSUM, BIXLEY, BROUGHTON, SKILTON - SURREY

MILES, GOSLING, CHAMBERLAIN, CROSS, HARRIS, FISHER, GOODENOUGH, WOODLEY,  WIGGINS, DAWSON, JONES, LAY, LOVEGROVE - BERKSHIRE

WRIGHT, WIGGINTON, HERBERT, - WARWICKSHIRE

WHITE - DEVON

TAYLOR, BIGGS, STRATFORD, COOK, BOULTON - WILTSHIRE/GLOUCESTER

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Re: Sing Sing prison - Rossom
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 October 11 17:03 BST (UK) »
This appears to have a mention of his death:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0fqg/

However, as the 1910 Census and the thread that Lisa linked to mention that he was born in Bohemia, it might be a different guy.


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Re: Sing Sing prison - Rossom
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 October 11 21:42 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yes you are right shellyesq it is not my Joseph Rosum. I have Joseph living with his wife and 4 of his sons in Manhattan Ward 12, New York in 1910
 He was born 1847 in Epsom, Surrey. He went to America abt 1867, married 1875 and in 1878 became a us citzen.I have not been able to find when Joseph died.
I think the key date is around 1904 to find out if he was in Sing Sing
ROSUM, BIXLEY, BROUGHTON, SKILTON - SURREY

MILES, GOSLING, CHAMBERLAIN, CROSS, HARRIS, FISHER, GOODENOUGH, WOODLEY,  WIGGINS, DAWSON, JONES, LAY, LOVEGROVE - BERKSHIRE

WRIGHT, WIGGINTON, HERBERT, - WARWICKSHIRE

WHITE - DEVON

TAYLOR, BIGGS, STRATFORD, COOK, BOULTON - WILTSHIRE/GLOUCESTER