Annie O'Malley from Mayo

[JayUU]

Hi Anne,

Yes, James P O'Malley, brother of Maureen, son of Mary & James J, married and and 6 children, 3 of which are still alive.

James P died in 1980 (need to check my records) but his wife is still alive & lives a 5 minute walk from me. One of their grandsons (my double 3rd cousin once removed) actuallys works in the same place I do & we have a a cup of tea & a catch up regularly.

James P was an accountant & for a period of time looked after my Dads accounts (they were v good friends as well as being double 2nd cousins).

His sister Maureen (d. 2003) was a vet but also a celebrated local artist (painter). She travelled the world & regularly visited the States to see her relatives.

So... Is James Joseph O'Malley a descendant of Annie O'Malley?

Cheers

John

PS. Am aware of RootsChat rules re living relatives so can do all that via PM.

[JayUU]

Was one of the Butcher shops of Liverpool located at 78 Soho St to your knowledge?

I don't know. Not seen that address before, but can easily look up in a Gore's /Kelly's Directory for you. If you're not aware, they are old style Yellow Pages. Let me the relevant years & I can look the address up. Some of them are online & easily searched.

[JayUU]

Hi Anne,

I have found entries for various Durkin butchers in a combination of Gore's & Kelly's Directories stretching from 1896 to 1970 - have photographed all the entries and can post them here if you like.

The directories are split into 3 sections - all listed alphabetically: streets, names & trades.  So you can look up any one of 3 very easily. 

I looked up 78 Soho Street in the 1916 Gore's Directory:

Soho St
78, Durkin, Patrick A.,  pork butcher.

It appears that he was in business with his brothers also (from other entries). Later on, ca, 1955 onwards, a James Durkin & brothers are carrying on. Whether or not they are Partick's sons remains to be confirmed, but I suspect they are.

I should also add, that there are numerous entries for O'Malley, Stanton & Staunton butchers. A HUGE extended family business!

OK, enough for the moment.

:-)

John



 

[abyrne]

James Joseph O'Malley was Annie O'Malley's brother.  Thomas and Patrick were also their brothers.  I believe Patrick Alfred Durkin was their uncle but cannot prove this with any records. Patrick Alfred Durkin was born in County Mayo townland Tallavbaun.

He moved to Liverpool and was shown on the 1881 Census living with John Devitt (head) at 17 Sawney Pope St shown as an Apprentice (food dealer)

1891 census showe him as Pig Salesman (head) at 47 Stafford his brother Michael  (butcher) and sister Catherine as well as Richard Toole (pig dealer assistant) and Mary Heating  servant.

1901 showed him married to Helena with son Martin Francis 6months and nephew James O'Malley age 8

[abyrne]

James Durkin was Patrick Alfred's youngest brother born 2 Feb 1881
Patrick Alfred also had a brother Michael b. 1873 whose son Martin Arthur b 1901 was the approximate same age as Martin Frances (Patrick Alfred's son).

Patrick Alfred's sons were Martin Frances and Nicholas PI
his daughters were Mary Agnes and Helen Gerard

[abyrne]

I know about Maureen she visited my Aunt (Annie O'Malley's daughter) who is a missionary nun and gave my aunt one of her paintings. My aunt has the original.  I only have a scanned copy of it.

[abyrne]

Thank you. I would love to have you post anything about the butchers and/or 78 Soho Street.  The ships record for Annie O'malley in 1919 coming to the US said her previous address was 78 Soho St with Uncle P Durkin.  My aunt says my father James Conboy, deceased, (Annie O'Malley Conboy's son) visited Tom O'Malley at the butcher shop during WWII.  My Aunt, a missionary in Indonesia, (aged 90) loves getting my emails telling her of the ancestry quest I am on

[abyrne]

Annie O'Malley Conboy & James Joseph O'Malley were siblings.  James Patrick O'Malley and my father  James Conboy were first cousins.  So the children of James Patrick O'Malley would be my second cousins.

Annie O'Malley and James Joseph O'Malley's parents were William O'Malley and Bridget nee Durkin O'Malley

[JayUU]

WHOA! That's a lot of information! Thanks :-)

I have quite a few photos of Maureen and her brother Jim (James P). Jim's children are my double 3rd cousins.

It seems that were are linked by marriages. There are 2 different O'Malley families that married into the Stanton/Staunton family. 

Going back to my great great grandparents: Patrick Staunton (or Stanton!) and Winifred Ruane, who apparently eloped.  It is this Winifred (probably) that subsequent Winifreds are named after... BUT... I don't know the tree beyond them, so there could well be more Winnies!

It's get a little complicated from here... ;-)

Patrick & Winifred's children:
- Thomas Patrick m. Honor/Honoria/Hannah/Anne MORRISON (my great grandparents)
- Patrick Joseph m. Catherine MORRISON (sister of Honor) - hence the double cousin
- Mary
- Ann - emigrated to US
- Bridget - emigrated to US
- Catherine m. Patrick GAVIN
- Andrew m. Alice O'MALLEY (the other O'Malley family I mentioned above) - 14 children! - many grandchilden in the US.

As an aside & to muddy the waters a little, Honor & Catherine Morrison (marrying the Stanton/Staunton brothers Thomas & Patrick) also had a sister Mary - she married a Thomas M Staunton (another butcher!). It's been mentioned to me by Jim's widow that Thomas M was a cousin of Thomas & Patrick but I haven't been able to corroborate that.

Thomas & Honor Staunton changed name to Stanton. Their children:
- Mary Catherine
- Winifred Mary m. Thomas W (my grandparents)
- Nora Elizabeth

Patrick & Catherine Staunton's children:
- Mary Winifred m. James Joseph O'MALLEY 1923
- Catherine
- Thomas Patrick
- Patrick Joseph

So the children of Thomas & Honor and Patrick & Catherine, shared all 4 pairs of grandparents and are/were therefore double cousins. There grandchildren are double 2nd cousins to each other & so on.

James P O'Malley & his wife (living) had 6 children but only 3 are still alive and I work with (v loosely!) one of the grandsons.  Jim & wife were good friends of my parents and one of their daughters baby-sat me & my siblings regularly when we were much younger.

More tomorrow maybe.

Cheers

John