Annie O'Malley from Mayo

[abyrne]

Thanks.

My Briget's marriage record to William O'Malley definitely says father Martin Durcan address Wasteland (whatever that is) .  Most of the records indicate she was born approx 1864 except the marriage trnscription said she was 24 in 1883. But the death record says she was 51 in 1915 and the 1901 & 1911 census info pretty much agrees with that.

The Witnesses were Thomas Durcan and Mary Durcan.

[shanew147]

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My Briget's marriage record to William O'Malley definitely says father Martin Durcan address Wasteland (whatever that is) .
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English and Irish marriage certs show current residences of the bride and groom - which may or may not be the address of their fathers at the time


Shane

[abyrne]

Heywood,

Sure looks like you are right!! That's Patrick's family. I found some of them on the 1890 census at 47 Stafford, Liverpool

DURKIN, Patk A   Head   Single   M   25   1866   Pig Salesman              Ireland
DURKIN, Catherine   Sister   Single   F    21   1870                                Ireland
DURKIN, Michael   Brother   Single   M   17   1874   Butcher                             Ireland
TOOLE, Richard      Single   M   25   1866   Pig Dealers Assistant           Ireland
HEATING, Mary A   Servant   Single   F    20   1871   General Servant Domestic    Liverpool
                     
So glad he is a pig salesman. It makes him easier to spot.

But I still don't know how he is related to Bridget                      
                  

[heywood]

According to http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/
Martin Francis Durkin's mother is Ellen Caulfield.
It just seems so strange that there isn't a marriage for Patrick A and Ellen/Helena.
His baptism though doesn't give a father's name  but as he is registered as Durkin perhaps they just weren't married but lived together and continued to have children.

[abyrne]

That is most confusing then.  I found a marriage reference for Martin F Durkin West Derby Lancashire 1932 Jul Aug Sep spouses name Anne Caulfield said vol 8b p 1022  same last name ?

Then Martin Francis Durkin Liverpool Lancashire born 6 Sept 1900 Civil Registration Death 1982 Jul Aug Sep vol 36 p 0247.

[heywood]

I would imagine that Martin's wife, Anne, was a relative of his mother, Helen.

This family is perhaps related too - a baptism for Helen Caulfield 1897 - parent Francis.

I just found the baptism of Mary Agnes Durkin in 1906- parents Patrick and Helen. The Godparents are Michael Durkin and Agnes Caulfield.

[heywood]

There are as we know a few Durkins (variations) in L'pool at the time. However, I will just post these - the one I just found is interesting.

Catholic Marriages (I have translated the Latin form to English form of names)

(All with parent Martin Durkin)

Catherine Durkin and Daniel McArdle 16th May 1899  St Nicholas
a witness is Margaret Durkin
   
Margaret Durkin and Timothy Hughes 11th Jun 1911 Sacred Heart   
a witness is Helen Durkin   

Helen (or Ellen) Durkin and Thomas Peter Walsh 25 Oct 1913 Sacred Heart   
a witness is Ann(a) O'Malley 78 Soho Street 

1901 the McArdles have Margaret Durkin and James Durkin as 'relatives' James is a butcher 

I can't say that all these are relevant except for Ann O'Malley as a witness.
There are many Durkins 

[abyrne]

Thanks. That's very cool. Who is the other witness with Anne O'Malley?
 That address just keeps popping up. I am hoping to find the connection
On the ship record Annie says Uncle P Durkin 78 Soho St.
Patrick Alfred Durkin owns the burial site where Bridget is buried with her last address 78 Soho St. But it doesn't appear there's any way he's her brother most perplexing
the address 78 soho doesn't appear in the 1901 or 1911 census info.

[heywood]

The other witness is Frederick Murphy Gt Howard Street