BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #8: Richard Madeley

[nospringchicken]

I found the programme a bit computerized in that they seem to be contacting people who are already on the internet with the information rather than doing their own research. So a bit boring again but ... I was interested about the midwife and the petition. My hunches again ... There something more to it than was said, I'm sure ...

Maybe it wasn't relevant to Richard Madeley's family tale but I did wonder whether they would talk about some of the men going with Indian women ... and there being babies as well.

I just feel that the women were in a very precarious position on both settler and Indian sides ... And this midwife role is something much more ... Or maybe it's just shades of "The Crucible" and such like hanging over me - it's always about women ... Interesting that the genealogist/historian Diane Rapaport involved at that stage is also a former lawyer ...  

[Phil Goater]

I enjoyed this program but I too fell asleep as they approached the subject of the slaughter and had to replay it.  Have the BBC unwittingly found a cure for insomnia?

Biblically the sins of the fathers are visited down to the 4th generation I believe - so there may have been more to Richard's emphasis on the number of greats!

[mrs.tenacious]

wasnt too keen on this one today. more history lesson than geneology i thought. i know the two come hand in hand but still for me it wasnt the best one so far this series.

Totally agree.  And I think I dropped off about the same time as stonechat!

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My husband always falls aslep in WDYTYA. He says it's the voice-over that is soporific.

I found this episode very interesting and the meeting with the native American was very moving, and well handled by Richard, who must have felt his hostility and diverted it in a way which was very sympathetic.

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I wonder if he has found William Beansleys origins in England?

William Beamsley is all over the internet (as are other ancestors of Richard Madeley mentioned in the programme). Apparently they can't pin him done with exactitude but believe he probably came from Lincoln where Beamsley is a local surname. I wikipedied and googled the Hicks and Beamsley families during the programme and found there is loads of information.

On Genes Reuniteds facebook page they are promoting links to people's trees who have William Beamsley in them. They all say he was from [Boston,]Suffolk.

[roopat]

Boston Lincolnshire?

[Marmaduke 123]

I found this a very interesting episode too. I liked following the female lines, often ignored in the programmes.

I thought it was a good corrective to the idea that many people have, that the early settlers in America came to an empty land. The American Indian gentleman was very impressive.

Richard came across well too. I've always rather disliked him, but might have to revise my opinion!


Anne

[toni*]

they seemed to skip some information but they can only fit so much into an hour so i will let them off  i heard Richard on the radio this morning talking about the show.

also Sarah Chute i was saying its pronounce shoot as in rubbish chute but they kept saying it as chewt.
 
i must agree with the native american it was a massacre of his people if that happened today there would be uproar if the native Americans tried to storm that place  and take their land back. have you seen the Addams family values where they children are sent to camp and they are doing a play for thanksgiving play

'Wednesday: Wait!
Amanda: What?
Wednesday: We cannot break bread with you.
Amanda: Huh? Becky, what's going on?
Becky: [whispered] Wednesday!
Wednesday: You have taken the land which is rightfully ours. Years from now my people will be forced to live in mobile homes on reservations. Your people will wear cardigans, and drink highballs. We will sell our bracelets by the road sides, you will play golf, and enjoy hot hors d'oeuvres. My people will have pain and degradation. Your people will have stick shifts. The gods of my tribe have spoken. They have said, "Do not trust the Pilgrims, especially Sarah Miller."
Amanda: Gary, she's changing the words.
Wednesday: And for all these reasons I have decided to scalp you and burn your village to the ground. '

[nospringchicken]

I wonder if he has found William Beansleys origins in England?

William Beamsley is all over the internet (as are other ancestors of Richard Madeley mentioned in the programme). Apparently they can't pin him done with exactitude but believe he probably came from Lincoln where Beamsley is a local surname. I wikipedied and googled the Hicks and Beamsley families during the programme and found there is loads of information.

On Genes Reuniteds facebook page they are promoting links to people's trees who have William Beamsley in them. They all say he was from [Boston,]Suffolk.

Boston Lincolnshire?

Hi,

I'm not an expert on this and I'm getting all this from the internet but isn't Boston in the USA in Suffolk County? Suffolk County was named after Suffolk in England but also meant Southern folk, according to Wikipedia. Although it's quite possible if the Beamsley family was in Lincoln and the surrounding area that they were also in Boston, Lincolnshire. I got the information from this link http://minerdescent.com/2010/06/13/william-beamsley/ although of course I haven't verified sources. Actuallly Boston has a fascinating history as a Hanseatic League port and also had quite a few monasteries (shades of Robin Gibb! lol). And like Boston in the USA is on reclaimed land. And interestingly there is a Scotia Creek from which boats sailed attempting to reach America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston,_Lincolnshire And of course it's twinned with Boston, Mass

Interesting info here about the Massachusets Bay Company/Colony http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Bay_Colony   The first person from the colonists executed was a female physician said to be a "witch", according to Wikipedia