Author Topic: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)  (Read 8238 times)

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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 24 September 11 17:51 BST (UK) »
They could be two of the Edwards children showing in 1881.

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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 24 September 11 17:55 BST (UK) »
I saw three - John, William and Charles

Consider this one:

Cefn Bychan
RG11/5514/94/18

John Williams, 45, general labourer
Emma, 40
William, 11
David J, 6
Evan T, 2

All b. Cefn mawr

The other one fits better with the names though  :-\
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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 24 September 11 18:04 BST (UK) »
In case the William that we've been looking at is correct ~

Marriage Rhosymedre

10 August 1876
William Williams (collier) of Rhosymedre (widower), aged 41
and
Tabitha Edwards of Rhos (widow), aged 39

William's father is shown as Charles Williams, sawyer.


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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 24 September 11 19:52 BST (UK) »
I think I've solved the problem of the William on the 1891.  It's Tabitha's son,   William Edwards, aged 10 on the 1881. Also there is a Charles Henry Williams, aged 17 =  Charles H Edwards , aged 7 on the 1881.

So, I'd say that the William (and the late Elizabeth) are William's parents and  Norman's grandparents.  I'll send the pages, Sean  :)


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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 24 September 11 20:05 BST (UK) »
I've got a possible baptism for him in the Penley Parish Registers booklet I have in 1831.The Charles then though is showing as a Labourer.It shows on 09/01/1831 to Charles and Mary of Northwood.One possible sibling a Margaret baptised 26//04/1833.There is also this family I found in Overton in 1841-HO107/1408/10/23/10.

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 24 September 11 20:48 BST (UK) »
Have you got any hits for him on the 1851, WR? I've tried the three counties but nothing really firm so far  :-\

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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 24 September 11 20:58 BST (UK) »
He isn't showing too readily.

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William Russell Jones
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 24 September 11 21:56 BST (UK) »
There is a possible marriage in the Oswestry District in the Jan/Feb/Mar quarter of 1859 to a choice of three Elizabeths,a Jones,Thomas or Williams-Volume 6a,Page 1025.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Norman Wallis Williams (Bell Stores Crane st Cefn-Mawr)
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 24 September 11 22:03 BST (UK) »
They do have a 4 year old son, John, b. Ruabon, on the 1861 -

RG9/4281/37/21

He could have been born before they married but .....


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