NICHOLLS Baptism (BIRMINGHAM: St PHILLIPS) lookup please

[ScoobySn4x]

Hi,

I'm new to this board - so I'm hoping you can help me!
I am trying to evaluate whether I have the 'right' family before I make the decision to travel to get a copy of the original registers.

I am looking for confimation of the occupation of the father for the following entry:
28th April 1817: Saint Phillips, Birmingham - Temperance NICHOLLS, parents John & Mary.
I am hoping that his occupation is of the gun trade, most likely Gun Polisher.

Fingers crossed and best wishes,
Carl

[colette]

Hi 1841 has NUKHOLLS at Lancaster St St Marys Birmingham

John Gun Polisher, wife Mary.
children
Temperance,Frederick,William,Mary,Thomas,Joseph,George,James,Sarah,Elizabeth.

Temperance is aged 20 nut according to Family Seach records she was born 1814 and baptised 1817 so unless 1841 has her age wrong maybe John and Mary had another daughter and also called her Temperance.

Cannot see her baptism on the new Warwickshire recrds on Ancestry.
Hope this helps

Colette

[ScoobySn4x]

Hi Colette,

Thank you for looking up the 1841 census for me, and my apologies for not replying sooner (holiday!)
Unfortunately I had already had this in my collection and should have made that clear in my initial post, so my apologies.
The age is a worry, for sure (even with the rounding of ages in that census) and so you may be right that either there was another birth, or the St Philips is not the right family (which is why I was hoping for evidence of the fathers occupation in the baptismal record).

Its unfortunate isn't it with the new Warwickshire records on Ancestry as they don't appear to have any for Birmingham or Aston. Their addition is on my Christmas list!

The only additional information I have managed to glean in the meantime on this family is that Mary Nicholls maiden name was STANDLEY (as evidenced by her youngest daughter born in 1839 - an eye watering 22 years after her first child)

Thank you again for your help, and I hope your own searches proves fruitful.
Best wishes,
Carl

[colette]

Hi Carl

so are you just trying to establish if The Temeperance Nicholls baptsied at St Phillips 1817 but born 1814 was the daughter of John the Gun Polisher

Lets say her age is way out in 1841 it happens.. a marriage 1850 St Stephens Birmingham
Temperance Nicholls to Benjamin Burbidge...she seems to be the only Temeperance around so has to be her..

1880 census USA
Hicksville Queens New York
Head Benjamin Burbidge aged 80 b England b 1800
Wife Temperance age 66 b England b 1814

Two German Lodgers with them both named Charles Rich father and son...

this has to be the couple who married in Birmingham 1850

Need to track them down 1851-1871 unless you already have..

Also PRINCIP ST...LANCASTER ST are very close to each other  I would say she is the daughter of John & Mary and its such a pity the baptisms havent come on Ancestry..just that one word Gun Polisher on her baptism would solve it..

Col

[ScoobySn4x]

Thanks for all your help last year - I thought I'd complete the story based on new information I discovered this week, just in case anyone stumbles over this post looking for similar information.

I finally took some time from work and made my way to Birmingham to see the records for myself.

Temperance was indeed the daughter of John Nicholls the 'Gun Pollisher' (sic). She was baptised at the same time as 2 of her siblings (Emma and John).

As my trips to Brum library are few and far between (about once every 2 years), I asked about whether there were any plans to digitise the church registers as has already occurred for the rest of Warwickshire. The answer given was no and no future plans. Pity - I hope this changes.

[colette]

Hi Carl

Glad you have cleared that up, and it is a pity about the records maybe one day aye


Take Care

Col xxxxxxxxxx

[chrisnick636]

Carl are you still on Roots Chat? I have some information for you that might help with your Nicholls family. Chris