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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 22:09 BST (UK) »
Rather a slow episode, some interesting ideas for research, but not a gripping story.

I noticed in the Radio Times that this was no. 9 of 10 programmes with no. ten next week, Richard Madeley.

Have I missed the prog on Len Goodman as I can't remember seeing it or being out on a Wednesday evening?

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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 22:15 BST (UK) »

Not had one on Len Goodman yet; there's also Tracey Emin.  This was number 7 (June Brown, JK Rowling, Seb Coe, Larry Lamb, Emilia Fox and Alan Carr have been shown).

I've got a certified midwife in my tree; must look for some records for her.   :)


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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 22:19 BST (UK) »
I agree the pace of the program was too slow

I felt it needed additional material or should have covered another line
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 22:21 BST (UK) »
The most interesting bits for me weren't anything to do with FH !


His house ...

His toupée ...

His need for a magnifying glass ... his eyesight must be awful, poor guy !



But I've learned a bit more about Paisley weaving and ragged schools, so that was good.
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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 22:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you Nanny Jan  ;D
Feeling much better now.

I'd forgotten about Tracey Emin - no doubt we shall be travelling to Turkey with that one? The information in the RT is incorrect.

Panda, wouldn't that be just great  :D

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Every time I find an ancestor,
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SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 22:22 BST (UK) »
Yes, have to agree this was rather a S.L.O.W one.  Tho' I did give Robin a cheer and thought "to get 'um" when he went after the records that were closed until 2013.

Imagine Robin knocking at your door   ;D I really liked Mary Cherry too!  

Wonder who's up next week  :-\

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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 22:24 BST (UK) »
Next week Richard Madeley according to the RT, but they have the number of episodes wrongly calculated so who knows?

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 22:35 BST (UK) »

BBC WDYTYA website shows Richard Madeley (8/10) as the celebrity next week.



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Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 9 Episode #6: Robin Gibb
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 23:07 BST (UK) »
Didn't the lady whom Grandma Lynch delivered look like Robin Gibb?!!!!! Even her sister with her rounder face looked a bit like another of the Gibb brothers. Or maybe I'm just seeing likenesses where none really exist!

Was it actually verified that James Lynch was Grandma Lynch's husband? Or maybe pre 1948 qualified midwives were different from qualified nurses and allowed to marry? Were midwives not viewed as nurses? The word 'wife' in this case within the narrow parish/diocese (Catholic and C of E) surely could be a bit ambiguous with midwives being called mid-wives and wif also being a term for a woman! Like the use of the word "constable" in the parish. Mind you, I suppose the word "nurse" can also have ambiguous meaning - nurse, wet nurse, nursemaid etc, although once nursing was formalised into a profession with a national qualification it becomes more definite in certain contexts.

Some people would say the Midwifery Council was rather narrow in not refering it to the GMC, as it was a communicable disease, and there was a doctor involved. The academic was very insistent wasn't she that the Midwifery Council was run by doctors (I think there is still a big doctor input with the Council although we're not going backwards nowadays, I hope!)?

It struck me there obviously there was a large amount of prostitution in these urban areas but the wives or women living with men didn't of course have to be prostitutes  when the men brought gonorrhea into the home from the outside.

It would have been interesting if we could have known a bit more from the obituary. I noticed she was born in Birmingham and there was something about an RC school and "St Mary's".

Noticed at the beginning Robin Gibb did mention about madness and then turned out to have a poor ancestor classifed as being mentally ill for being depressed re his destitution! He doesn't seem to have been so prescient in mentioning his mother's remark about selling children, thank goodness!

There is a rather important weaving connection in the family which wasn't mentioned at all.

http://www.brothersgibb.org/history-part-1.html

Sir Samuel Crompton who invented a spinning machine, the mule-jenny.

Would have been nice to know something about the PASS family as well.  

Still the access to the disciplinary records must be useful for many, although when he asked for an alternate avenue, I did wonder whether the local newspaper would be mentioned (it must have been a big case locally both about the midwife and the doctor) or even the local health board records. Unless the authorities wanted to keep anything to do with venereal disease out of the newspapers.