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« on: Wednesday 21 September 11 04:24 BST (UK) »
Euphrasia left New York in 1853  arriving in Melbourne same year. William Dean Tune is on passenger list leaving but not on arrival in Victoria Australia Any Ideas? Sandra Tune
Tune, Zanoni, Middleton, Scoble, Russell, Body

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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 15:30 BST (UK) »
Hello Sandra & welcome.
Ship's often docked at other ports en route so he may have disembarked before the ship arrived in Australia or he may have died at sea.

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 September 11 16:50 BST (UK) »
In either case there ought to be a record of the event.
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 September 11 00:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jim, William Dean Tune did arrive in Australia as lived here until his death in the early 1900's. Can you advice where I could find out the ships route?
Sandra
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 September 11 20:00 BST (UK) »
As that voyage preceded both the Panama and Suez canals, I would suggest the following places as stops during the voyage, bearing in mind the ship if a steamer would have been coal fired. 1) Rio de Janeiro 2) Cape of Good Hope 3) Perth and 4) Melbourne. I would think that a coaling stop would be needed whilst crossing the Indian Ocean, so the ship may have been routed via Colombo (Sri Lanka) then Ceylon. I am certain they would not round Cape Horn by choice.
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 September 11 21:44 BST (UK) »
The Times, Jan 6 1853
SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE
Arrived New York: Euphrasia, from Lisbon

Daily News, Oct 29 1853
AUSTRALIAN SHIPPING
Melbourne Arrivals Aug 2nd - 20th
8th. Euphrasia, (from) the Cape

Confirms Redroger's view that rounding Cape Horn was not part of the itinerary

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 September 11 19:11 BST (UK) »
Was Euphrasia steam or sail? A steamer would have to make many more stops to take on coal, as I detailed above.
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 September 11 20:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for those links. A quick read has established 1) The Euphasia was a sailing ship. 2) The ship was used on the East Coast USA to California via Cape Horn in the 1849 gold rush and shortly afterwards. There is a specific reference to conditions on the Cape Horn run in the maritime heritage link. Though I still think it most likely a journey to Australia from the Eastern USA would be via Cape of Good Hope, there are sufficient references to the Cape Horn route to make me a little uneasy. Clearly all my suggestions about coaling stations are reduced to ashes (pun intended) though  passengers would still need to eat, and it would be fresh fruit or scurvy whichever way they went.
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