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Offline emilysiobhan

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May Brickwall challenge
« on: Friday 06 May 05 09:51 BST (UK) »
In the process of getting votes for and against whether the Rootschat May challenge should be completely random or not I recieved a PM suggesting that we should investigate a particular brickwall for someone who has been very helpfull to others but is now a bit stuck.

Since I thought that a very nice thought (I will leave the authoress of the PM annon. in case she does not want the publicity I thought I would advertise the brickwall here so that more people might see it.

It involves a Vigers family John b 1810 who married Sarah Ethelreda in 1830 in St Georges Camberwell.

They moved to the states by 1833, but then back again by 1834 and I believe the problem is in finding any trace of the family in America (where Sarah possibly died) or in the 1851 census in London.

The relevant posts with more info on are:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,41216.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,47875.0.html

It would be great if someone can help with this family,
Best Regards,

Emily
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Re: May Brickwall challenge
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 May 05 18:09 BST (UK) »
Emily, what a good idea.

Found this site - mainly re: the Donkin Family but with some information on a SARAH VIGERS - born 1808 - Stoke on Trent.  Married Charles Donkin Dec 1827 in Fulford Staffs, but... travelled to New York around 1830s.  Could this be John's sister ?  And if it is, did they travel out with John and Sarah Ethelreda?

http://uk.geocities.com/omh762004/herm04.htm



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Re: May Brickwall challenge
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 May 05 19:17 BST (UK) »
Found plenty of Vigers, but not the ones you are looking for sorry. They seem to travel a lot as I found them on a ship to NZ in 1851. A John Vigers was on the 1841 census for Lamerton Devon, but once again the wrong John :'(
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Re: May Brickwall challenge
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 16:21 BST (UK) »


I only picked this up because I thought it might work - but I can't find a birth to go with it -  maybe it can be kept on the back burner !


name: Vigers, John Edward
Record Type: Deaths
Quarter: June
Year: 1857
District: Kensington 
County: Greater London London Middlesex
Volume:1a
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Re: May Brickwall challenge
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 21:34 BST (UK) »
OK Mike finally came through with a little more info -  we now have the married name of the daughter Sarah.................maybe we can work backwards.....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,47875.0.html

1871 census

71 (no address) Kensington London

Richard J Hickman age 39 Freehold and house proprietor b. St Marylebone
SARAH E      "         age 38 B. New York
Walter RJ      "        age 12 City of London School b. Marylebone London
Herbert ?      "        age 8 Nottinghill Prep School b Marylebone
Reginald ?     "        age 6 Nottinghill Prep School
Elizabeth ME  "       age 3 St Marys Abbot Kensington
Jessie JH        "       age 1 St Marys Abbot Kensington
Mary Russell          age 22 Cook b. Hadenham Herts
Clard? Anne Alburg age 26 housemaid b. Busddon? Berks
Lucy Ann Bowden Nurse age 26? St Marylebone

http://www.londonancestor.com/iln/illustrated.htm

interesting site - even have City of London School and other things that may be of use !

How come I only get Charwomen and Bankrupts for my relatives....??????

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Re: May Brickwall challenge
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 22:11 BST (UK) »
Heres she is in 1866 -  boy she died young didn't she??


Name:       HICKMAN, Sarah
Record Type:       Deaths
Age at death:       32
Quarter:       March
Year:       1866
District:       Westminster St Margaret
County:       London Middlesex
Volume:       1a
Page:

I have the 1861 census for 11 Chapel Street St Marylebone
and I just typed it all out and it's disappeared..................!!
could somebody please post it for me .......?????

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Re: May Brickwall challenge
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 22:29 BST (UK) »
Heres she is in 1866 -  boy she died young didn't she??


Name:       HICKMAN, Sarah
Record Type:       Deaths
Age at death:       32

This can't be the same Sarah Hickman - as I have found her alive in 1881 - at 71 Blenheim C, Kensington, Middlesex, aged 48.   (RG 11  piece 0035 folio 51 p.45)

It's definitely right, as it gives her place or birth as New York. 

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Re: May Brickwall challenge
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 22:31 BST (UK) »
Hold the phone!!

Thats not Sarah's death !! -  I just found her in 1881 as a widow..
oops sorry Sarah!!

Annie

Sorry Mike as I was typing you posted... :P
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Re: May Brickwall challenge
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 22:32 BST (UK) »
Mike beat me to it  ;D

Wanted to know how she managed to be on the 1871 census!

Helen

and as I was typing - you posted  ;D ;D
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