DYNAN family....and Harbourmasters of Cork?

[Lindyloo22]

Hi,
I'd love some help and/or advice if possible with trying to find John DYNAN b abt 1806 Ireland-believed to be from Cork from family memories. Unfortunately I have no idea re any family members etc as can only reach him via the 1841 census and via his marriage listed in 1827 to Ann PARRY in Manchester England. I dont know if he left Ireland alone or with family members, he's on 1841 census in England with his family but goes to America without his family in 1850 and dies in the American Civil war in abt 1861!
The only other hint I have is that family memories say a member of the family was the/a Harbourmaster of Cork, maybe a DYNAN or cousin etc with different name. Is there anyway of getting a list of Harbourmasters in the early 1800's? I've tried emailing the present Harbourmasters with no response.
Any help would be great, any DYNAN info at all that I could possibly sieve through etc. Thank You.

[suds]

Hello

I'm afraid I can't add anything to your Dynan information and only slightly in the matter of harbourmasters of Cork.

A distant relative of mine married Henry Hewitt O'Bryen who was harbourmaster at Cork. I don't know when he got the job, he was doing it in the 1860s. He died in 1873. It appears that he was a ship's captain sailing out of Liverpool prior to becoming harbourmaster.

There is a connection to Manchester in my line but I've never come across the name Dynan.

Regards

Suds

[skibbgirl]

Afraid I can't help you much either - only to mention that in Edward MacLysaght's reference The Surnames of Ireland :

"Now chiefly Cos Clare and Cork.  Quite distinct from Dinneen though in Cork Dynan has sometimes been changed to Dinneen."

[Lindyloo22]

Hi Suds and Skibbgirl, Thank you for trying to help me out with this, it always seems to be a difficult one to get anywhere with.
Unfortunately I dont know of any O'Bryen family connecting to the Dynan's either so I'll just keep trying and let you know if I find anything, you never know! How did you find out that he was a Harbourmaster by the way?
Thanks for the County help, I have managed to look at a couple of lists on Irish Genealogy websites that cover Clare and Cork but the multiple name variations make it very hard work trying to pick possible lines to go down with minimal info available and the first name of 'John'..... nobody said it would be easy!!
I have been lucky in another aspect of my searching,  other helpful people on this site have just told me that a witness at John's daughters baptism was a Nicholas DINAN so maybe that will help me to tie some info together.
Thank you very much for trying to help, I really do appreciate it, Thanks and Best Wishes.

[Sonas]

Hi, this is just a guess but I wonder if the the employers of the harbourmasters would have been the Cork Harbour Commissioners. There is a book by Mary Leland on the Commissioners and maybe the references in it would give you ideas about where to look for source material.

[suds]

Hello

Lindyloo22

I had found the marriage of HH O'Bryen to my distant ancestor without Knowing he was harbourmaster. Then, sometime later, I came across a reference to the marriage in an online forum but with my ancestors name mispelled. The online poster was researching the Hewitt family. I wrote and in the following correspondence the harbourmaster thing emerged amongst a whole lot of other stuff. I was able to confirm it in Google Books where there are a number of references.

Sonas

Many thanks for the reference to the book. I have requested a copy through my library, fingers crossed.

As I have said elsewhere the father of my distant ancestor was a Commissioner of Birkenhead Harbour and I have a sneaking suspicion that he was involved in the Harbour at Cork. Up to now I've found no evidence to support the thought. During my pursuit of evidence I came across this:

http://www.corkharbour.ie/pages/Cork_Harbour_Bibliography_March_2009.pdf

I wrote to the author, who responded but wasn't able to help much at all.

Regards

Suds

[Lindyloo22]

Hi, I may have had a break through...heres hoping! John Dynan travelled to US with a relation whose name we've never known, but I've just come across a possible Dynan family listed  in Cork & Ross - Kilmurry et al  and also Ovens and Aglis, Danl Dynan married a Mary Lane and had a Margret Dynan in 1821..now the hopeful bit...on the ships manifest to New York after John is an entry for Dennis Lane 'Labourer born abt 1825 Ireland' .
 The sponsors at the baptism were David Lane and Mary Riordan, when I searched David Lane I found one married to a Ellen Riordan with a son Denis Lane born in 1825 (maybe died as child as is  another Denis Lane born in 1832, further down the manifest I think there  are Riordan's too.....I'm hoping this is a link to the correct Dynan family.
Does anyone have any info about Dynan/Lane/Riordan families in Cork and Ross areas ie. Kilmurry and Ovens and Aglis? I'd love some help please. Other names that seemed to mix in as sponsors etc in various seemingly connected baptisms were Margt  Murphy, Julia Murphy, Tim, Eliza, Ellen, Patrick Riordan etc etc.
I do hope that helps to make some connections, its great to feel hopeful. Thanks 

[Lindyloo22]

Hi Suds,
I've just come across a Mary Dynan marrying a John O'Brien on 8th June 1865 at Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire. The spelling of O'Brien is slightly different but not greatly so, perhaps this could be of help to you. Best Wishes.

[Lyndylooking]

Hi Suds,
Sorry about the delay in responding and also the different account name...I've had issues with forgetting my passwords and therefore accessing the system, but thanks for your help so far.
I'm wondering if a few of the same Dynan family came to the Manchester area together but I can't link them other than by similar dates and area! So Mary could well be one of John's siblings but I don't know how I'll find out for certain.
At John Dynan's daughters baptism a Godparent is Nicholas Dinan, on looking for Nicholas Dinan I have found a wedding in Bolton, Lancashire to Mary Summers in 1851 and they are together on the 1851 census in Bolton. On the marriage details it says Nicholas is a Widower (at @ 29yrs) and by occupation a Tailor and his father is John also a Tailor by occupation- this is a very positive link to them being the same family as my John was a Tailor too so maybe three generations or still just two if Nicholas is his son....but I think he's too old to be really.
This could be they are brothers and their father is John Dinan/Dynan (new piece of info) or that John is the father of Nicholas and he was attending his sisters baptism rather than his neices.

Hope this extra info may help to identify this family.
Thanks.