James Turnbull Steel

[douglas670]

looking for info on the family of James Turnbull steel, especially his parents whare they were in the 1901 and especially 1911 census.

James Father Robert Steel is from my direct line but left scotland to work as a fishmonger in deptford would be interested in any reord whether death/census etc
some other details below
His name was James Turnbull Steel, he died in 1924 in Greenwich aged 33,due to illness believed to being rlated to having been gassed in the First World War. we have no idea of his regiment and some have tried looking for service records at Kew but to no avail.
his family were
Robert Steel Head
Mary Wife
sons/daughters
Catherine
maggie
Robert
isabella
james
elizabeth and all the above born berwickshire scotland.
mary born doncaster
john born deptford
James lived at the previous addreses 83 Amersham vale in 1913, later 18 Trim Street, and 339 Evelyn street, all Deptford at some point.
is there any historical society or nearest library that could look at old local newspapers of the day?
i appreciate this could be time consuming but wonder if he may be mentioned on any recruitment lists or mentioned if discharged thru gassing although not confirmed he was discharged. i appreciate there maybe a fee involved but wouldny mind any info on what service could be offered. the surviving grandaughter has limited info but thinks he wouldnt have been called up until 1916 when older men were taken?
any ideas appreciated
we have looked at a james t steel but he was in the durham light infantry and age doesnt fit. the grandaughter doesnt think his middle name wa used on the census etc. perhaps a death notice in the local paper in 1924 may mention previous military service
any help greatly appreciated
Douglas Steel

[KGarrad]

Copyright rules prevent us from disclosing the 1911 census.

Found the family in 1901:
Reference RG13, Piece 526, Folio 127, Page 78
58 Wellington Street, St Nicholas, Deptford

Steel, Robert  Head  M  39  Fishmonger  b Berwickshire, Scotland
Steel, Mary  Wife  F  40  b Berwickshire
Steel, Catherine  Daughter  F  18  b Berwickshire
Steel, Maggie  Daughter  F  15  b Berwickshire
Steel, Robert  Son  M  14  b Berwickshire
Steel, Isabella  Daughter  F  12  b Berwickshire
Steel, Jas  Son  M  10  b Berwickshire
Steel, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  7  b Berwickshire
Steel, Mary  Daughter  F  5  b Doncaster, Yorkshire
Steel, John  Son  M  3 weeks  b Deptford

[douglas670]

thanks for that.
i have joined ancestry on the free trial and for some reason cannot get the 1911 census, is it online yet?
regards
douglas

[crisane]

Do you have James' death certificate?  This will give the cause of death. Ancestry isn't showing any WW1 records for him but this isn't unusual as more than 50% of WW1 records perished in the bombing of WW11

[douglas670]

no certs on james but know he married and had a child peggy.
or anything else re  b/m/d records
douglas

[crisane]

On ancesry I find the old search easier to use. From the home page click on SEARCH 3rd from left on top bar. Then on the far right under the bar and in very small print it says Go to Old search. Once on that page look down the RH side and click on UK census then on the next page on RH side click on the one you want.

[douglas670]

thx
will give that a try, as i did find it awkward
cheers
douglas

[crisane]

Also when searching use an asterick like this James Ste*l. This brings up quite few army records even with the last name Steel which didn't come up when I typed it in!  ancestry can be quirky, try any variations of spellings you can think of. Also sometimes less information you put in you get better results

[jennifer c]

Have you found the tree for this family on Anc......?

Jennifer