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looking for birth of Thomas Henry Walker
« on: Friday 09 September 11 21:51 BST (UK) »
 :)Hy I would appreciate any help to trace the birth of Thomas Henry Walker b-abt 1860 Hampton Bishop
Unfortunately I dont know who his parents were.         The 1901 census states he was 39 and living in Golden Grove Llandybie Carmarthenshire.        The 1911 census says hes 61 ( maybe an  error), and in 1918 his death cert says he was 58 and died in Golden Grove Llandybie    . It also states he was married to Elizabeth Louisa Silverthorn, but cannot find marriage!         I phoned Carmarthenshire Register office today and they also have no trace of marriage, but does have their first child also Thomas Henry Walker b- 1893 mothers maiden name Silverthorn born in Llandeilo. Can anyone  one help solve this one?                    kind regards Romangirl.

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Re: looking for birth of Thomas Henry Walker
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 September 11 22:12 BST (UK) »
Births December qtr 1870   
Elizabeth Louisa Silverthorn     Ashby de la Zouche  7a 81

The 1901 census gives her birthplace as Gloucester - not Leicester

What birthplace is shown in 1911 for both Thomas & Elizabeth
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 September 11 22:15 BST (UK) »
1891 shows Elizabeth L Silverthorn unmarried aged 20 and b Leicestershire  living with her widowed mother Jane in Gloucestershire

1901 has eldest child aged 8 so any marriage between 1891-1901
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Re: looking for birth of Thomas Henry Walker
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 September 11 22:42 BST (UK) »
:) Hy CaroleW On 1911 its says she,s from Leicester, I note from when she was born in Ashby de la Zouch They moved to Iron Acton    her father died when he was 24. On the 1891 census it says she was married name James and her mother Jane Silverthorn was a widow. by 1893 she was in llandilo with Thomas Walker she died in 1917 aged 48 her children's birth certs say she was formally Silverthorn.


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Re: looking for birth of Thomas Henry Walker
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 September 11 22:45 BST (UK) »
 :) HY caroleW forgot to say asked register office to check first childs birth year its 1893 Llandeilo
      1911 census is says Thomas born Hereford
                            Elizabeth born Leicester               

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 September 11 22:56 BST (UK) »
 :) HY caroleW forgot to say asked register office to check first childs birth year its 1893 Llandeilo
                      Elizabeth - Leicester
                      Thomas   - Hereford

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Re: looking for birth of Thomas Henry Walker
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 September 11 23:01 BST (UK) »
I could kick myself as I looked at the 1891 image to check if her mother was a widow and didn't notice Elizabeth was shown as James - she is indexed as Silverthorne

So we are looking for a Silverthorne/James marriage and then a James/Walker marriage

Nothing on freebmd for either marriage

Need to find the marriage to get Thomas's fathers name
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Re: looking for birth of Thomas Henry Walker
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 September 11 23:09 BST (UK) »
 :) Hy CaroleW  i  missed it the first time too, I have tried to find a marriage for Silverthorn / James
but Missed the E on Silverthorn. also on 1911 it says number of years married 20 and oldest son 18.
also Thomas was 61??? and Elizabeth 41.  Unless his son who was present at death was not sure of age.     Maybe he was 61!!!!  which would make him 68 when he died, and born in 1850