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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #144 on: Wednesday 14 September 11 13:39 BST (UK) »
Carol,
that link doesn't give any information - sorry.

Re Kingstown/Dun Laoghaire- I asked re that point earlier. The earlier Chas Cook photos that are online (very rarely it seems to be) have the name written on in white ink.
The C Neville Cook have an imprint from a stamp so I would have thought that it could just be changed to the new town name - maybe not  :-\

Perhaps local library archives at Dun Laoghaire may be able to inform whether it was necessary that everyone swapped over at the same time.

Also, if the participators in the procession are as we have discussed - I wonder why the civilians/scouts/ other young uniformed and a fire tender with firemen are there but no large military presence. ???

Elsewhere, there is a film of some firemen's funerals but they had a large turnout of firemen in procession -accompanying the hearse etc.
The trouble is we don't know what has already passed by in the procession.

I don't suppose there are any Cook family still around in D L as photographers to tell us when the company ceased trading etc.
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« Reply #145 on: Wednesday 14 September 11 13:48 BST (UK) »
Ooops!....It does now ;D ;D ;D...Yes I think we are anly seeing part of the procession in this shot too.
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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #146 on: Wednesday 14 September 11 15:24 BST (UK) »
http://www.rmsleinster.com/sinking/sinking.htm

On October 10, 1918 the Mailboat, "The RMS Leinster" sailed out of Dún Laoghaire with 685 people on board. 22 were post office workers sorting the mail, 70 were crew and the vast majority of the passengers were soldiers returning to the battlefields of World War I.

Twelve miles out from Dún Laoghaire Harbour, "The Leinster" was torpedoed and sunk by the German U-boat U-132. 501 people lost their lives and the 184 survivors were rescued by the British destroyer RMS Mallard and RMS Lively and taken ashore in Dún Laoghaire. This was the greatest loss ever of Irish life at sea. More Irish people lost their lives on the "Leinster" than on the Titanic or the Lusitania.

In the days that followed bodies were recovered from the sea. Funerals took place in many parts of Ireland. Some bodies were brought to Britain, Canada and the United States for burial. One hundred and forty four military casualties were buried in Grangegorman Military Cemetery in Dublin.

Officially 501 people died in the sinking, making it both the greatest ever loss of life in the Irish and the highest ever casualty rate on an Irish owned ship. Research to date has revealed the names of 529 casualties.

Another possibility?

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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #147 on: Wednesday 14 September 11 18:50 BST (UK) »
The bobbys, they don't seem to be spaced out quite as neatly as as at Arch Bishop Walsh's but they aren't facing the crowd so does this tell us they aren't looking for trouble, they are there from a respect point of view in a standard position but maybe not been quite as fussy for this event.


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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #148 on: Wednesday 14 September 11 21:25 BST (UK) »
The first question I asked myself about this photo was if it was a single funeral  that had attracted a large crowd or multiple burials which would explain the large number of cars in attendance, I settled for the latter
I discovered that there were two tragedies which claimed the lives of many locals, the first being the Christmas Eve Lifeboat disaster in 1895 which saw fifteen local men lose their lives and drew world wide attention and secondly the sinking of the Leinster in 1918.
Pastmagic and a member who contacted me by P M but has not posted here as yet have raised my interest again by mentioning this ship.
Of the 501 persons who lost their lives eleven of them were buried in Deans Grange. Of those one in particular caught my attention: Mrs Frances Saunders. a local woman, in answer to a telegram from her daughter Janet’s doctor was travelling to Holyhead to tend her daughter who was seriously ill.
This was the second time that the cruel sea was to bring heartbreak to the Saunders household as her husband Frank was one of the fifteen drowned 23 years previously on Christmas Eve.
Sadly Janet also lost her fight for life three days later.

So many possibilities still despite the good work here. I have gone through the newspaper archives but without an approximate date it was like searching for the proverbial needle.

Thanks again everyone.

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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #149 on: Wednesday 14 September 11 21:36 BST (UK) »
Might it be a parade to commemorate an anniversary of one of these tragic events?
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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #150 on: Thursday 15 September 11 03:30 BST (UK) »
Wouldn't the Leinster incident be too early? Fashions in photo look later than 1918... :-\

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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #151 on: Thursday 15 September 11 04:34 BST (UK) »
Following with interest!

Would one of the hobbling disasters be too late date wise? http://www.dlharbour.ie/content/history/articles/hobblers.php

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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #152 on: Thursday 15 September 11 15:24 BST (UK) »
The 'London bobby' style police helmets mean it is pre-Garda Síochána.
The Dublin Metropolitan Police wore those helmets but merged with the Gardai in 1925.
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