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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #126 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 12:32 BST (UK) »
Don't know if this has been mentioned, apologises if it has, but if this is a funeral wouldn't most of the men in the crowd have removed their hats as a mark of respect? I remember this happening when funerals went past when I was younger. No one seems to be in the act of replacing their hats.
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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #127 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 12:39 BST (UK) »
If a funeral, then perhaps the hats were placed back on their heads after the hearse had passed.  In the 1950's I stood beside my father in a large crowd as a funeral procession passed.  All the hatted men took their hats off, most put them back on after the hearse had passed.  My father kept his hat over his heart until the entire procession had passed.  When I asked him why, he explained, it was "his way, taught to him by his Dad", and the others paid their respects "their way", but we had all "paid our respects" in the right way for each of us. 

I can see at least one man with his hat held across his heart.  He is standing on the fence outside the churchyard, not much hair on top,  and there are men in the procession not wearing any hat...  To me the lack of hats on some in the procession that also is pointing to the photo being into the 1930's rather than soon after WWI . 

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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #128 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 13:07 BST (UK) »
Don't know if this has been mentioned, apologises if it has, but if this is a funeral wouldn't most of the men in the crowd have removed their hats as a mark of respect? I remember this happening when funerals went past when I was younger. No one seems to be in the act of replacing their hats.

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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #129 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 14:05 BST (UK) »
Are they boy scout unfiforms... or school blazers with different coloured edging? 

And are there a number of men in robes behind the scouts / schoolboys?  Looks like there could be some tutors at the back maybe?


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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #130 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 22:28 BST (UK) »
http://www.warofindependence.info/?page_id=252

Even scouting in Ireland had a role to play in the War of Independence. Scroll down to the photo from 1913 - the last group photo on the page - and look at the hats.

Then there were the ordinary Baden Powell variety:
http://www.scouts.ie/more/about_scouting_ireland/history_of_scouting_ireland-177.html

And of course the catholic church made its own variety:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouting_Ireland_(CSI)#Early_days_of_CBSI

This is really complicated.

i don't know if the irish schoolboy of the period wore hats......




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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #131 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 22:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,
 
I have been following all the replies with great interest and following the leads where possible.
 
I found out today that the original cobblestones which lined the roads were made of granite, it being in plentiful supply in the whole area and one of the reasons why Dun Laoghaire was chosen as the location of the ‘asylum’ harbour in 1817. The light colour of the granite, as opposed to cobblestones made from other materials such as calp might be the reason why so many posters feel that there is snow on the ground in the original photo but look at the photos on Page 3 which show the new cobblestones made from the same material when the streets were made into pedestrian only areas.
 
I know I shouldn’t laugh but I loved the little story from Sinnann at Reply # 69.
 
JM came up with a brilliant suggestion regarding the trees in reply # 79 I know from my readings that the church when first built was fronted by a group of shops (one being a pub) which left only a narrow entrance off Georges Street into the church grounds. It was only when these shops were purchased and demolished around 1890 that the church was enclosed by the railing shown in the earlier photos. All photos at # 43, 61, 79 and the OP show these trees and I have contacted the Gardening Section of DLRCC in the hope that they can throw some light on the situation.
 
I have also contacted a member of the Irish Vintage Car Club and am awaiting a book from him in the hope of identifying and aging the vehicles.
 
The biggest problem for me at the moment is the police uniform. The ‘Bobby’ type helmet and uniform were not worn on the streets of Dublin after 1922 according my sources and if this is true then the whole issue of what decade is thrown wide open again.
 
Thanks again everyone for your contributions. By the way my son is a member of the police force here and I told him of the great detective work being carried out on this subject and suggested that he post some of his ‘Cold Cases’ as he is sure to get results HAHA   
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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #132 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 23:07 BST (UK) »
Every day I check in here for any further postings and also to see if I can ' spot ' anything.  It's a fascinating subject which will no doubt be solved by our clever Rootschatters.

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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #133 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 23:55 BST (UK) »
Yes. it is reallly interesting on these long puzzles how they get dissected here, and eventually get solved. i have seen threads where lots of people seem to be wandering round and round the same tiny detail - like bobies hats and the coluor of cobbles, and suddenly it all comes together. Off to chase the bobbys hat, the scouts hat, the undertakers hat, the cloche,,,,hats off to all the contributors..

http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=police+uniforms+ric+dublin&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=VGwx3c008upbbM:&imgrefurl=http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php%3FPH

Nice pic of the origial hat and a problem solved!

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Re: Whose funeral is this?
« Reply #134 on: Tuesday 13 September 11 23:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,
 I found out today that the original cobblestones which lined the roads were made of granite, it being in plentiful supply in the whole area and one of the reasons why Dun Laoghaire was chosen as the location of the ‘asylum’ harbour in 1817. The light colour of the granite, as opposed to cobblestones made from other materials such as calp might be the reason why so many posters feel that there is snow on the ground in the original photo but look at the photos on Page 3 which show the new cobblestones made from the same material when the streets were made into pedestrian only areas.
 

It looks like there is also 'snow' inside the fence up to the church. Or is that also light coloured granite cobbles?

I'm not sure, but I also think there is a little snow on top of some of the branches of the trees (as previously pointed out).