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Re: Cemetery is now a car park !
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 22:42 BST (UK) »
Thinking about it more if they were to be reburied it would have been at Southern as we have family there and there would have been an inscription on the stones there. As no such inscription I am assuming they reamain at  Rusholme.
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Notts: Smith, Hughes.
Lancs: Dobbin, Rowlinson, Marr, Povall, Hall, Halliwell
Berks/ Sussex: Dearlove, Carter, Marchant.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 September 11 14:52 BST (UK) »
I based my thoughts on what happened to the Quaker burial place in Doncaster in the 1970s. It was cleared and the bodies re-interred in Doncaster borough cemetary. It was never built on and is now part of the station car park . The latest burial there was around 1930.
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 September 11 19:00 BST (UK) »
The only cemetery removal I know of was the Wesleyan Cemetery in Cheetham Hill.

http://menmedia.co.uk/northeastmanchesteradvertiser/news/s/1043939_work_starts_at_last_on_new_centre

Even Victoria Station in Manchester is partly built on a cemetery "Walkers Croft" no bodies were ever removed - so don't get scared at night when you are stood all alone on the tram platform.  ;D
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 September 11 00:21 BST (UK) »
 T here was little respect shown to the graves of babies at Philip`s Park cemetery, when the road was being widened prior to the sports ground being built. The little graves lay just under the wall fronting  the roadside. Families were promised that there would be individual  disinterments but sadly this was done by bulldozer -and all the remains buried in one mass grave  mound with one communal stone.
 The distance involved seemed so little you wonder they could not have been left in place.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 08 September 11 15:29 BST (UK) »
A mass grave is the norm for re-interrments, and providing it is sensitively done I am quite happy with it. What I am not so happy with as an amateur archaeologist is the lack of forethought which went into the extension of St. Pancras station London for the European connection known as High Speed 1, when the graveyard known to be to the north of the station, it was disturbed when the original station was built in the 1860s, was completely ignored even though there was an archaeolgical team assigned to the entire project. I think someone hadn't done their homework.
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 14 September 11 23:10 BST (UK) »
Mancsman's comment about Victoria Station and Walkers Croft cemetery interests me as I have an ancestor buried there and was aware that bodies were not re-interred when the railway was built. Many years ago I used Victoria for the daily commute however I have not been there for a long time. Can anyone tell me if any kind of plaque or marker exists to show where the burial ground was? I have to say I would be surprised if there was any memorial but it would be nice if there were. Yes I have to admit to being nervous if I am ever alone on a station platform at night; but it's not the dead I'm afraid of!
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 15 September 11 02:22 BST (UK) »
There was an article that I came across whilst doing a search for "Walker's Croft" recently. The article and photo's from "Network Rail" is below

http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/Press-Releases/STATION-PLAQUE-MARKS-FORMER-PAUPERS-GRAVE-170e/SearchCategoryID-5.aspx

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 15 September 11 09:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for that Footo. I am pleased to see that there is a plaque and will a make a point of seeing it next time I am in Manchester. I am a bit puzzled by the date of closure though - 1832. I thought the graveyard was closed at the end of the 1840s. My ancestor was buried there in 1847 and building work on the railway commenced a year later.  More research I think ......
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 15 September 11 11:49 BST (UK) »
Extract from ebook re:burials at Walkers Croft - this will explain all

Walkers Croft
By now, Manchester was expanding at an unprecedented pace. The growth of the cotton
trade sucked in workers and their families from miles around. Poor diet and housing
conditions took their toll and the large population and high death-rate, particularly of
infants, made the provision of a large new burial ground imperative. The Wardens of the
Collegiate Church found the answer in 1816 in a plot of land on the far side of the River
Irk called Walkers Croft. Walkers Croft had, in earlier centuries, been the location of
works for the fulling of woollen cloth, a process known as ‘walking’ and as such the
origin of the surname Walker. By the 19th century, however, the land appears to have
been in use as agricultural smallholdings. The rectangular plot was purchased and
enclosed and a small mortuary chapel erected at its centre. The plot lay conveniently
alongside the Manchester Workhouse, which would be the source of many of its future
occupants, and, indeed, there was a gate from the workhouse yard directly into the burial
ground.
Walkers Croft served as the parish burial ground for the next three decades during
which the registers record around 40,000 burials. It was not, however, exhaustion of
capacity which led to its final closure, but the transport revolution. The new Manchester
to Leeds Railway was to run into the new Victoria Station, which had been built partly
on former workhouse land. To bring the line into the station required it to cross Walkers
Croft. Following a Parliamentary enquiry and appropriate legislation, the plot was sold
to the railway company in 1836 for some £13,000. The tracks were laid across the
northern edge of the graveyard without the need to disturb the existing graves and the
extent of the incursion can be clearly seen by comparing maps drawn immediately before
and after the event. Despite the sale, burials continued in the remaining portion for a
further 12 years until the final interment took place in 1848. Some time later, the station
was extended across the remainder of the site, again without removing the remains. The
present Metrolink platform lies directly over the old graveyard.

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