Author Topic: Arrival in Winnipeg 1920 - W.H. Dangerfield  (Read 14125 times)

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Re: Arrival in Quebec 1920 - W.H. Dangerfield
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 13:35 BST (UK) »
Mountain View Cemetery. Vancouver.

Lillian Dangerfield    December -08-1945      Location Ref - ABRAY/*/10/036/0002 (524)
William Henry Dangerfield    February -08-1947   Location Ref - ABRAY/*/10/036/0002 (524)


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http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ews/  - Edith Dangerfield - Brookside Cemetery

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ewt/  - Elizabeth Dangerfield - Brookside Cemetery

Perhaps you can contact the contributor to ask for a photograph, the inscriptions may tell you a little more.


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Re: Arrival in Quebec 1920 - W.H. Dangerfield
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 20:19 BST (UK) »
Well FreeBMD has a marriage SeptQ 1907 Leeds - but the date being out for immigration and see no matching records so far for them on passenger lists...nor death to correspond, so won't confuse by posting full information. She could have married here in Winnipeg, but if so... it isn't transcribed online.

Can't see a second marriage for him, or for her for that matter, for Edith interred near Elizabeth to belong to them....but we have solved enough to see where the family settled, and perhaps a family member may spot this and join in one day...
In the meantime dropping a line never hurt... here are some locals with the surname
http://www.canada411.ca/search/?stype=si&what=dangerfield&where=winnipeg&x=27&y=12
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Re: Arrival in Quebec 1920 - W.H. Dangerfield
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 20:40 BST (UK) »
A William Whiteley from Yorks appeared on a passenger list in February 1907 but that was prior to the 14 August 1907 wedding to Lillian Nelson. Lillian was listed as a nurse on the certificate and William a Boot Manufacturer. Haven't found Lillian (spelt Lilian on the certificate)  on a passenger list yet.
William Almond Whiteley also appear on British Army WW1 Service  Record - York and Lancs Regiment in 1915.  ???

Apologises I forgot to mark Lillian as widowed on that 1916 Census  :(

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Re: Arrival in Winnipeg 1920 - W.H. Dangerfield
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 23:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks both,

The info you found is greatly received, I'll have to collate it all over the next few days with my tree.

I do have an aunt in Vancouver from the Keyes side, so I will ask her for some help too.

Thanks again for the help given.

Terry
Nash:-             West Bromwich, Birmingham, Worcester
Dangerfield:-   Tipton, West Bromwich, & Canada
Keyes:-            Oldbury (Worcs), West bromwich, Chaceley (Gloucs)
Russell:-           Oldbury (Worcs)
Glover:-            Tipton, West Bromwich
Gorton:-           Oddington (Gloucs)


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Re: Arrival in New York 1909 - Dangerfield
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 23:46 BST (UK) »
Unless he was visiting his uncle for some 17yrs, I've found another list of arriving in Quebec 24 Sept 1920 on ship 'Melita'. Desination - Winnipeg. Which maybe where they believe he did go to Canada.

Why would you assume he visited his uncle for 17 years because of a second passenger list entry? Not all passenger lists or border crossing documents survived so it's very possible he travelled between Canada, the US and England multiple times with no record being available.

an Elizabeth Dangerfield died March 7 Wpg. 1914 age 45
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
She's buried in Brookside cemetery with an Edith nearby....Edith was one year old, so not sure whose she'd be...
http://www.winnipeg.ca/ppd/cemeteries/Brookside/BrooksideDAA_DAO.html

J.J., you have the date backwards for Elizabeth's death. The Manitoba Vital Stats website lists entries as day/month/year and the Brookside Cemetery website lists them month/day/year so Elizabeth died 3 Jul 1914.

There's an article in the Winnipeg Free Press dated 17 Jul 1914 regarding her death (and it does say she died 3 Jul 1914 in the article). There was an inquest held and the jury ruled that Elizabeth had died from the "accidental administration of cyanide of potassium by her husband, William Dangerfield". The article also mentions that William's sister, Mrs. Gilbert had testified. Telboy, if you PM me your email address I will send you a copy of the article.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Arrival in New York 1909 - Dangerfield
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 07 September 11 00:07 BST (UK) »
Canada Ocean Arrivals Form shows - William Henry Dangerfield. Born 1875 Stipton. Staffordshire (thats how it is written)  and aged 45 years. Travelling on SS Melita to Quebec and arriving 24 September 1920. Protestant. Gardener. Resides in Canada.

The passenger list for the Melita is also available and it indicates that he had lived in Canada for 17 years. He's the last entry on the page:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e145/e003612189.jpg

There is a passenger list for the Ionian which departed from Liverpool on 30 Apr 1903 and arrived in Montreal on 10 May 1903 which had a Wm H Dangerfield and wife onboard. The outgoing UK passenger list has his wife's name as Elizabeth while the incoming Canadian passenger list refers to her as Mrs. Dangerfield. The Canadian passenger list indicates they were from Staffordshire and destined for Winnipeg. They are the 7th and 8th entry from the bottom:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e147/e003653673.jpg

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Arrival in Winnipeg 1920 - W.H. Dangerfield
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 07 September 11 01:06 BST (UK) »
Oh, dear yes, I did get that so wrong, didn't I? Thanks for the correction! I do however, now qualify to work on the cemetery transcriptions, as they are not always in the same order ( some thought month came first, some day) so they had quite the jumble. This may have been rectified, though...  ;D J.J.
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Re: Arrival in Winnipeg 1920 - W.H. Dangerfield
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 29 August 12 20:29 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Not been here for awhile and sorry for not thanking everyone for their help.

I have been in touch with cemetery in Vancouver and they sent me details of their deaths and location etc..

I shall be on Holiday in Vancouver shortly and they will arrange a marker for me to find where they are to pay my respects while I'm there.

Just been reading the previous posts to catch-up and refresh memory of records found.

** Now I'm not sure whether this puts a spanner in the works but these records:-

William Dangerfield aged 41 years. Born England. Head. Methodist. Immigrated 1902. Gardener.
Doris Dangerfield aged 8 years. Born Man. Daughter.
Lillian Whiteley   aged 34 years. Born England.  Housekeeper.Anglican. Immigrated 1906. WIDOWED

I recall my grandmother showing me photos of Doris and think she lived in or near Seattle.**


Again thanks all
Nash:-             West Bromwich, Birmingham, Worcester
Dangerfield:-   Tipton, West Bromwich, & Canada
Keyes:-            Oldbury (Worcs), West bromwich, Chaceley (Gloucs)
Russell:-           Oldbury (Worcs)
Glover:-            Tipton, West Bromwich
Gorton:-           Oddington (Gloucs)

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Re: Arrival in Winnipeg 1920 - W.H. Dangerfield
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 15 September 15 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Picked up again, to go alttle with my searches.

Can anyone help for Mary Jane Gilbert (Nee Dangerfield) born: 1885, she is already mentioned above living in Winnipeg with John Gilbert  and two boys also Simon is living with her in 1911.

Did she ever return to England for good, as I have a Jane Dangerfield born: 1876 which I thought lived here in West Bromwhich into the 1960's.

But a distant family descendant claims Jane died at 12mths. Yet i remember a Auntie as Jane (jinny/Jenny) so was she Mary Jane.

Thanks
Nash:-             West Bromwich, Birmingham, Worcester
Dangerfield:-   Tipton, West Bromwich, & Canada
Keyes:-            Oldbury (Worcs), West bromwich, Chaceley (Gloucs)
Russell:-           Oldbury (Worcs)
Glover:-            Tipton, West Bromwich
Gorton:-           Oddington (Gloucs)