Origins of the surname Kinch

[stanmapstone]

Kinch does not appear in the list of Manx (Isle of Man) Family Names
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/nindex.htm

Stan

[RedMystic]

I just wondered what you made of the info I posted.
It looks to me that WILLIAM Kinch was not a Child of Lawrence and his first Wife (if indeed she existed at all)
It may be that William was a younger Brother or Cousin of Lawrence.
Also if Lawrence was born c 1786 she would only be 15/16 when John was born.

Trish

Hi Trish,

I'm not sure what to make of William Kinch. On the up-side, I've been in-touch with one of the creators of the info in the link I posted in my first entry on this thread. He sent a response through the night & has suggested that there have been a number of corrections/additions when it comes to individuals that are identified in the info (that version is yr 2000). As I understand it, he will be providing me with an update - hopefully in the next few days - & hopefully I'll be able to comment more after that.

He has informed me that he thinks the family came from Ireland in 1818 - though that is unconfirmed by any formal records.

Kinch does not appear in the list of Manx (Isle of Man) Family Names
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/nindex.htm

Stan

That is a very interesting find Stan as the Isle of Man lead was one of the few consistent leads I've had when it comes to the name's origins. The maker of the family history link has no info beyond what I have provided in this thread when it comes to origin of the family, including the reference to Isle of Man.

Where to from here, I wonder? 

[trish1120]

Mmmm,
If you search KINCH 1780-1800 on Familysearch.Org and put in no Country there are 894 results. Places are Essex, Hampshire, berkshire, Norfolk etc and even Denmark ++ a few Irish Records and Deaths of Kinch's born Ireland living in Ontario, Canada.
1700-1710 there are 146 Records.
Quite a mystery

[RedMystic]

That is interesting Trish. The fellow who made the family history link seems confident in the Inch by Gorey location you found for William, so that may narrow things to the Irish locations.

When you did the search for Kinch (many TX for that BTW), I don't suppose the system automatically factors in the naming alternatives like the Kynyshe spelling you posted earlier, or Stan's Oxford Names Companion alternatives?

Those may open more doors, but also complicate the matter of tracing the name's origins significantly don't they? 

[Hazel17]

My grandmother was a Kinch. The furthest I have traced my Kinches back to is the Buckinghamshire/Oxfordshire borders - no hint of any Irish/Manx connection but I haven't been able to trace back beyond about 1780 (if I am remembering correctly off the top of my head). I didn't come across many other Kinch families in the area as I was researching.

I'm not sure if there is more than one point of origin of this surname - I had read somewhere that it was a variant of King.

I haven't read all of this thread as I am pretty tired from work but if you want any more details of my Kinches then please let me know. Or if anyone wants to see if my Kinches go back to Ireland/Isle of Man they are welcome but I think records for the parish of Mixbury Oxon (where my Kinch trail led) are not online and I have not had chance to visit any record offices in Oxfordshire to check out Kinch baptisms for that parish.

[stanmapstone]

There are 32 references to Kinch in "British History Online"
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/search.aspx?query=kinch
In the National Archives there is a document dated April 4th 1345 which mentions a Henry Kinch, of East Wretham, Norkolk. C 241/119/70

Stan

[Pastmagic]

Hello, RM,

Hope you had a good trip to Scotland.

These may be relevant:

From 'Brian J Cantwells Memorials of the Dead'
(Wexford)

Ballymore cemetery

Mrs Mary Roberts, Milltown, died 16/9/1848 (79)
her daughter- Mrs Frances Kinch, Milltown, 14/7/1868 (78)
grand-son- Matthew Kinch, Milltown,5/10/1873 (66)

Holyfort cemetery;
Abegail Kinch; 26/9/1957
her sister- Susan Whittney; 9/8/1957
her brother- Harry Whittney; 10/3/1918


Inch cemetery;
erected by Matthew Kinch, Ballyellen for
son-John Kinch; 24/8/1884 (9)
---
erected by John Kinch; Coolgranley for
wife-Jane; 29/10/1834 (65)
above John; 18/1/1847 (75)

Kilcavan cemetery;
erected by Edward Kinch for
son-Peter Kinch; 11/3/1896 (28)
Elizabeth Kinch; 9/6/1807 (75)

Transcribed some years ago, so may not still be standing.

This one looks as if it might tie in with your family?



No.23
Erected | by | THOMAS KINCH | Ballyellen, Inch | in memory of his beloved wife |
ELIZABETH MARY KINCH | who fell asleep 18th March 1927 | aged 68 years | also
his son MATTHEW KINCH | died in Alberta, Canada 18th March 1932 | "Blessed are
the pure in heart | for they shall see God" | and the above THOMAS KINCH | died
3rd April 1934.

See: http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/ire/wexford/photos/tombstones/headstones/inch.txt

There are two more, but this one mentions Canada.


IGI:

   17. ELIZA KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 NOV 1822 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   18. ELIZA JANE KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 AUG 1849 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   19. WILLM KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 MAY 1785 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   20. WILLM KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 JUN 1801 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   21. WM KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 JAN 1823 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   22. WILLIAM ROBERT KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAY 1863 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   24. THOMAS KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 NOV 1737 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   25. THOS KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 DEC 1803 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   26. THOMAS KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 APR 1814 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   27. THOMAS KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 01 NOV 1820 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   28. THOMAS KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 MAY 1854 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   29. CATHERINE KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 30 SEP 1864 0725, Newtownbarry, Wexford, Ireland
   30. REBECCA KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 APR 1814 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland
   31. SARAH ANNE KINCH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 12 SEP 1852 Inch By Gorey, Wexford, Ireland

PM

PS - see also:

http://www.myfamily.com/group/128153829

[RedMystic]

TXs for popping in Hazel. I hope you caught up on your sleep.

Kinch does seem to be fairly well represented in England. While I'm interested in connecting the relatives, I'm also trying to get a sense of the social fabric / history from which the family may have evolved.

I hadn't heard about the King variant before. TX for that. It's another avenue to explore.

[RedMystic]

Hi Stan

You are a master at finding the lists that might contain interesting info about names. My thanks.  Looks like we're back in England, rather than Ireland.

1345 - wow, now that's reaching back. Given a finding like this (and those of Hazel & Trish), it may be that I should be thinking that perhaps there was a time when the Kinchs moved from England to Ireland. Was that a possible resettlement pattern at any time in the last 800 years? 

Hmmmm.

Thanks again for stimulating another avenue of thought.