Punch Bowl Inn -Saltmarshe

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Hi Bendywendy,

Thanks for the feedback. No. I haven't obtained a copy of the will. I found the records "wills and Probate" through "ancestry.co.uk". But, you are right it was still quite a lot of money.

However his Father -John Stow Fitch who owned the shop together with his brother - Thomas Fitch left £6.965.18s.3d on his death in 1903 and Thomas on his death left £6.741.00 in 1902.

Those amounts were seriously large figures at the time.

I gather from my cousins that they think that Charlie was not a good business man and presumably trying to run the business during the great depression - the shop struggled.

Apparenty, when Charlie died in 1951 my Grandmother was left with nothing other than the £400.00 odd he left. She thought they owned the house in Bridgegate but apparently the house was owned by the business. So, at some point the business and house went. Poor Grandma.

Gran came down to live near my Mother and Aunt who by which time were both married and both lived in Warwickshire at the time . According to my cousins they bought her a flat close by.

So, it remains fascinating how my Grandfather managed to loose the shop and house.

Sally 

[bendywendy]

Hi Sally
Would have been best to have started a new thread with this, maybe the mods can seperate it 

Have you seen the actual register for Providence Chapel (Independent) Howden 1781-1836 RG4/2143 on Ancestry ??

John Fitch was a Deacon for the Chapel, a few baptism's included too, let me know if you need anymore details.

I also know which house was known as "Charlie Fitch's House" it is still standing, will take a photo of it and send to you at some point, I only live 3 miles from Howden.

Also is Charlie Fitch buried at Howden ??

Have you also seen the items held at Treasure House, local archives for Fitch, they owned land so the income was not just from the Drapery business.

Well after all this, there seems to be a connection of the Punch Bowl, Saltmarshe and John Fitch, Draper of Howden... 1825/26 John Fitch stood surety for Thomas Barker of the Punch Bowl.

bendywendy

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Hello Bendywendy, Firstly , may I apologise for not responding back to you earlier- I have had a family funeral this week and have had overseas relatives staying with us since Sunday. So, as you can imagine, all has been somewhat busy
 to say the least. Secondly, I really appreciate your interest and help with my 'Fitch' family research.

No,I have not seen the register you refer to - will go into ancestry.co.uk and see if I can find it.

How intereseting that John Fitch was a Deacon for the Chapel. Clearly I have much work to do!!

I would absolutely love a photo of the old house.

I have no idea where my Grandfather Charlie Fitch was buried. It is all so strange. Clearly John Stowe Fitch and Thomas were highly successful, as I have mentioned before. As were their ancestors. I subscribe to the 'Britishnewspaperarchives' site. There are numerous mentions of the Fitch's in Howden over the decades. Then it all comes to an abrupt halt when it comes to Charlie. The only mentions of him are passing mentions in connection with the Howden Flower Show.
And, I have not found any orbituary for him. 

For Your interest -

The death of Mr.J.S.Fitch

It is with regret we have to announce the death of Mr.John Stow Fitch of Howden,which took place somewhat suddendly at his residence in Hailgate on Monday night about 11 o'clock.
Mr Fitch was a member of a very old and much esteemed Howden family, whose name for a long period been associated with every movement having for its object the well being of the town and district.
He was the second son of the late John Fitch draper of Howden, and it is barely a year since on the lamented death of his much beloved brother the late Mr.Thomas Fitch-that we occasion to refer to their suceeding in 1859 jointly to the business so successfully carried on during a long interval by their mother. The partnership went out of business. The patnership existing between messrs T & JS Fitch continued up to four years when the senior partner retired by mutual consent to devote himself more to the Bank Agency, which they had jointly held as the representatives of the Yorkshire banking Company Limited. With the amalgamation of the latter with the Londons City and Midlands Bank, Mr J.S. Ftich retired from the agency , and his brother became the Bank Manager, but survived his appointment only a few months.

The deceased continued the Drapery business up to the time of his death, for although he had been in delicate health for a long time he was able to supervise the business carried on in the Market Place up to nearly closing time on the Saturday night.

Mr.Fitch had spent the previous evening with his son in law and daughter- Mr and Mrs T.P.Brearley at Portington Grange, remaining all night and driving into Howden on Saturday morning. He appears to have thus caught a chill, symptoms of influenza presented themselves on Sunday whichnecessitated Dr Chestnutt being subsequently called in. Unhappily pleurisy developed rather rapidly and onMonday afternoon the family were made aware of the fact that the illness of the deceased had taken a very serious turn. Meantime the services of a trainde nurse had been obtained, but although everything was done that medical skill could devise,death peacefully ensued as above recorded.

Of late years failing health had prevented the deceased taking a very active part in the public affairs of the Town,though vformerly he was not only a strong politician, but he took a very active part in the many contests which ensued in the east Riding,his support always being on the side of the Liberals.

Though nominated for the Board of Guardians he was not successful, but this arose more from the objection he had to a personal canvas of the voters than from any other cause and on to the coming in of the operation of the Parish Councils Act he was elected a Parich Councillor. and was subsequently appointed by this body one of the charity trustees.. He resigned two years ago, but retained thetreasureship to the Parish Council up to his death.. He was a director of the Howden Gas Company and for many years was associated with the committee of the Howden Horrrticcccultural Association and the Howdenshire Choral Society. Of which later he was for a long time a menber of the chorus.

The deceased was from his youth a member of the Howden Congregational Church, of which he was formerly a deacon as well as a trustee and had for some years had conducted a bible class for young men. The various branches of church work had in him an ardent and generous supporter.

The late Mr.J.S.Fitch was a shrewd mad of business and one whose advice was much valued by young tradesmen entering upon their business career. In many instances his services we called into reqisition as a trade valuer.

The deceased was married at Canning Street Chapel, Liverpool on 9th September 1861 to Miss Elizabeth Copley, only daughter of the late Mr Copley of Asselby near Howden, by whom, and a family of four sons and four daughters, he is survived.
 

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Cont.

With mrs fitch and the members of the family much sympathy is felt in their bereavement, for the loss of one so highly esteemed will be keely felt throughout the town and neighbourhood.


I also have a long account of the funeral day with a list of all the family members and guests. As you are obviuosly a local lass I will happily type it out as I have no doubt the list includes some intesting Howden Family names.

Any thing else you dig up would be greatly appreciated.

Sally

[bendywendy]

Hi Sally
Got some info from the library will put the info on here asap.
b.

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Have now found a James Fitch.  Son of William Fitch - Baker in Howden.

1881 James Fitch - residing Market Place ,Howden , Draper. 15 in household including cook, housemaids etc. Draper apprentices & assistants.

1891 census very similar.

So, did James live above the shop which was owned by Thomas Fitch and John Stow Fitch and what was James's relationship to them - work in progress.

Regards

Sally

[Nutley]

Hi bendywendy,

Sorry, I have given you incorrect information regarding James. He resided at Market Place - Malton and not Market Place - Howden.

I think however that Thomas and John Stowe owned more than one Drapers Shop- will try to find out.

Sally

[bendywendy]

Hi Sally
Info taken from the Monumental Inscriptions of Howden Minster by East Yorkshire Family History Society:

Pg 21 Headstone 140
In loving memory of Charles Edward Fitch who died March 8th 1951 aged 72 years. Also Elizabeth Fitch, wife of the above who died January 5th 1976 aged 86 years.
Parish Burial Register:
1951 Mar 11 Charles Fitch, Bridgegate, Howden, 72

Pg 61  Headstone 425
In memory of Edward youngest son of John and Elizabeth Fitch of Howden who died April 6th 1868 aged 26 years. Also the above named Elizabeth Fitch who died May 3rd 1879 aged 72 years. Also in loving memory of Alice Eleanor daughter of Thomas and Alice Eleanor Fitch born July 19th 1878 died July 13th 1893. Also the above named Thomas Fitch entered in rest, February 27th 1902 aged 68 years. And Alice Eleanor Fitch his dearly loved and devoted wife who died at Batley, June 9th 1931 aged 81 years.
Parish Burial Register:
1868 Apr 10 Edward son of John Fitch, Howden, 26
1879 May 6  Elizabeth relict of John Fitch, Howden, 72
1893 Jul 16  Alice Eleanor dr, Thomas Fitch, Howden, 14
1902  Mar 1  Thomas Fitch, Manor House, Howden, 68
1931  Jun 12  Alice Eleanor Fitch, Upper Batley, 81
                               
Pg 84  Headstone 593
Sacred to the memory of John Stow Fitch of Howden who died Feb 16th 1903 aged 68 years. In proud and loving memory of Pte Alfred Fitch, 28th Batt. Canadians, youngest son of the above who died Feb 26th 1919 from wounds received in France on Oct 8th 1918 aged 36 years. Also Ernest Copley Fitch son of the above who died May 24th 1924 aged 58 years. Also Elizabeth wife of the above John Stow Fitch who died Dec 19th 1931 aged 90 years. Also Alice Fitch daughter of the above who died 3rd Mar 1971 aged 96 years.
Parish Burial Register:
1903 Feb 19 John Stow Fitch, Hailgate, Howden, 69
1919 Mar 4 Alfred Fitch, No 4 Canadian Hospital, Bassingstoke, 36
1924 May 26 Ernest Copley Fitch, Howden, 58
1931 Dec 22 Elizabeth Fitch, Howden, 90

I need permission from EYFHS to photocopy the map grids for the graveyard, once I have this I can then let you have details of where the headstones are sited.

Other FITCH names that are in the same Monumental Inscriptions book, let me know if you require the transcriptions for any:

Ann  1173 (1795 Jul 21, 77 yrs, Spinster)
Bertha  811
Emma   811
Kathleen Margaret 811
Thomas 811
Walter Reuben 811
All these with Headstone number 811 are on Find a Grave, which shows the headstone and inscription. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=50917708&PIpi=27183212

John           767 (1841 Jul 11, 45 yrs) http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=50995260&PIpi=27261440
Sarah         767   (1876 Feb 28, 75 yrs)
Sarah Ann  767 (1832 Feb 7, dau John Fitch, infant)

Margaret  1187  (dau Samuel Fitch, 1793 Jul 29, Spinster, Howden, 77 yrs)
Samuel     1187 & 1189
Jane                    1189  (1770 Oct 25, widow, Samuel Fitch, gent)

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Newspaper info:
Goole Times Friday February 20th 1903
Notice of Death & Funeral of Mr J S Fitch of Howden

Goole Times Friday February 28th 1902
Notice of Death of Mr Thos Fitch of Howden

Goole Times Friday March 9th 1902
The Funeral of The Late Mr Thos Fitch of Howden
This was a HUGE funeral with ministers from all over Yorkshire and other religions that travelled to Howden for his funeral as well as giving Pulpit References to him in their own churches.
Businesses in Howden closed for the day as a mark of respect. The write-up makes interesting and humbling reading. Mr Thomas Fitch was held in the highest regard by those of Howden and far away.

I could not find anything regarding Charlie E Fitch, as you have a subscription to the newspapers try searching in the Hull Daily Mail.

bendywendy

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Hi Bendywendy, thank you so much for all your hard work - I am truely delighted with all this information. I am also delighted that you have found Charlie at long last.  I researched the 'findagrave' site but could not find all these grave stones you mention - I assume it is 'work in progress'.

I have a photo of the Fitch shop in Malton. When you zoom in, you can see that the Fitch name is inscribed on the Street Lamp!! How cool is that .

Will go back into Britishnewspaperarchives and see if I can find anything on Charlie - I have looked , but will look again . I also need to get all this infomation charted in chronological order - my head is spinning.

Many,many thanks

Sally