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James Cheal census 1841 East Grinstead
« on: Sunday 04 September 11 09:00 BST (UK) »
I have tracked my family back to an entry in the 1841 census for Esat Grinstead in Meadowlands. James Chea laged 40-45 is married to Mary aged 35-40  and has 7 children, Elizabeth, Henry, William, Mary, Ann, Harriet and John , who is my ggg grandfather.
I would appreciate any help in either finding the birthplace of James and his date of birth, and any other relevant information.

As a new member to this site I hope this is sufficient detail.

Thanks in anticipation

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Re: James Cheal census 1841 East Grinstead
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 September 11 10:29 BST (UK) »
1851 census at Lowfield Heath in parish of Ifield, in Horsham, James is shown as being born in West Hoathly, Sussex, England around the year 1800.
West Hoathly baptisms are available on the internet I think, will have a look later if no-one else gets there first.

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Re: James Cheal census 1841 East Grinstead
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 September 11 10:51 BST (UK) »
Hello locutus

Welcome to rootschat  :)

If you dont have it i beleive this is James & Mary`s marriage.

At East Grinstead,15 Oct 1826

James Cheal & Mary Brooker.

Looking for James`s baptisum

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Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: James Cheal census 1841 East Grinstead
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 September 11 14:24 BST (UK) »
From the IGI: Baptism 28 Jul 1799 James Cheal at West Hoathly, parents Henry & 'Betty'
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Re: James Cheal census 1841 East Grinstead
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 September 11 15:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the help.
Still only using internet free resources I've found James Cheal as born in West Hoathley on July 28th 1899 and with probably his father as Henry Cheal who married Elizabeth Hudson with banns on Nov 26th 1791 in West Hoathley. Henry Cheal is more of a problem as I cannot find his birth, although I have found a Henry who died in 1819 aged 48, which would place him as born in 1760/61.

Still looking

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Re: James Cheal census 1841 East Grinstead
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 September 11 15:33 BST (UK) »
Further to my last post if Henry who was born in 1761 in West Hoathley is the same as John who was also born in West Hoathley in 1761, then the next stey back seems to be another Henry Cheal who married Ann Voive in 1759 May 21st for banns.

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Re: James Cheal census 1841 East Grinstead
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 September 11 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I would agree that Betty is probably Elizabeth Hudson and that the marriage you have found is the correct one, though the SMI gives the year as 1792.

I cannot see a Henry baptised in West Hoathly at all during a reasonable time frame so I'll have a look at some other parishes for you.

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Re: James Cheal census 1841 East Grinstead
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 September 11 19:05 BST (UK) »
There is, as you say another Henry CHEAL, who marries Ann VOICE on 21 May 1759 in West Hoathly.  It's a possibility, and maybe Henry jnr was not baptised for some reason?

An added problem though is that Henry snr was a widower when he married Ann Voice and so it would not be clear who the mother of your Henry is: Ann, or his former wife, Elizabeth FARMER of Brenchly in Kent - they married on 13 Oct 1751 in Pembury, Kent.

Admitedly though, it is more likely that he is the son of Henry and Ann.

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