Marriage dates and maiden names - Driver and James

[salhyde]

I have 2 families who I can't seem to find marriage dates nor maiden names for.

 1) Edward James b 1789 marries an Esther ? b 1796. I know they lived in Ecton Northamptonshire. The first born child was Sarah James b1826 and Mary James b1826 then my relative Rachel James b1839 who went on to marry William Hyde.
also
2) William Driver b1804 marries a Martha ? b1799 of Chelveston Northamptonshire. There is one child born in 1821 Ephraim, then a gap to 1833, so not 100% sure if Ephraim was a child from a previous relationship or perhaps a nephew? He lives next door in the 1841 census. Other children include: William, Martha, Joseph and James Driver.

If I had a date for the marriages I could then order the certificates. I have been hunting for some time, so it could be that these are unavailable perhaps?

Thank You very much, in advance to anyone who can help me 

[rosie99]

Hi

Welcome to rootschat 

From freereg   http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl   

Higham Ferrers  St Mary the Virgin
MarriageDate 18 Mar 1827
GroomForename William
GroomSurname DRIVER
GroomAge 
GroomParish Higham Ferrers
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation 
GroomAbode 
BrideForename Martha
BrideSurname HALE
BrideAge 
BrideParish Higham Ferrers
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode 
GroomFatherForename 
GroomFatherSurname 
GroomFatherOccupation 
BrideFatherForename 
BrideFatherSurname 
BrideFatherOccupation 
WitnessOneForename 
WitnessOneSurname 
WitnessTwoForename 
WitnessTwoSurname 
Notes 
FileNumber 5285

This couple are also witnesses to the marriage of Abraham Tight and Mary Ann Driver also on freereg married at Chelveston


Certificates are not available until civil registration started in 1837

Rosie

[salhyde]

Thanks Rosie,
Awesome! I've spent ages looking for those  The other couple you mention are also my ancestors Abraham Tite and Mary Ann Driver. I'm sure their children married my gg grandfather William Driver and my great g grandmother Sarah Ann Tite.
Huge thankyou!

[seahall]

Hi to you both.

Welcome from me also katvonD. 

The Northants Marriage Indexes also has a marriage for Edward James
yet later than you mention katvonD .

Northampton St. Giles
19 Feb 1835
Edward JAMES of Ecton & Easter ROBINSON otp   

The marriages you seek are pre 1837 therefore would be the
Parish Church Records which can be seen at the Northants Record Offices
and some Northants Libraries and the Latter Day Saints Churches by
ordering the micro- films if they do not have them in their resources.

Sandy   

[seahall]

Hi again.

The details from the Chelveston marriage are as below.

x means signs with their mark.

Chelveston Parish Church By Banns

No.36, 14 Oct 1825
Abraham Tight,x, otp, Bachelor & Mary Ann Driver,x, Spinster
Witnesses: William Driver,x, Martha Hale,x, Joseph Stirman   

Sandy

[seahall]

This is the marriage of Ephraim at Chelveston from the N.M.I
who you were not sure was a son of William.

Chelveston   
25 Dec 1838
Ephraim DRIVER of Higham Ferrers, bachelor, of full age, labourer, father Joseph, labourer to
Mary Ann STARLEY otp, spinster, age 20, father William, labourer

Sandy   

[seahall]

This is more than likely Ephraim parents marriage from the N.M.I.

Raunds
24 Nov 1800
Joseph DRIVER of Cauldecot & Sarah WILBEY otp


Chelveston was/is also known as Chelveston cum Caldecote

So the baptism for Eprahim is at Chelveston as follows.

No. 44, 19 Oct 1817
Ephariam   s of Joseph & Sarah Driver, Labourer

siblings were
1. 3 Oct 1802, Mary d Jos’ph & Sar’h Driver. 2. 10 Jun 1804, William s of Jos’ph & Sarah Driver 
3. 18 Feb 1810, Phoebe d of Joseph & Sarah Driver

Sandy      

[salhyde]

Hi Sandy, that is wonderful, thank you very much for your help. I am quite new to all of this and didn't realise I couldn't get certificates. I now live in New Zealand so hunting parish records isn't really an option for me, unless I can find them online :-) so this is fantastic. Thank-you very much again.

I did think Ephraim was too old to be the son of William, so that is a mystery solved.

Thanks heaps
Sally

[salhyde]

Hi to you both.

Welcome from me also katvonD. 

The Northants Marriage Indexes also has a marriage for Edward James
yet later than you mention katvonD .

Northampton St. Giles
19 Feb 1835
Edward JAMES of Ecton & Easter ROBINSON otp   

The marriages you seek are pre 1837 therefore would be the
Parish Church Records which can be seen at the Northants Record Offices
and some Northants Libraries and the Latter Day Saints Churches by
ordering the micro- films if they do not have them in their resources.

Sandy   

I guess it would be hard to prove, but I'm wondering if this is the marriage I seek given my relative Rachel was born in 1839. From census records I see they have 2 other girls (twins?) Sarah and Mary 1826, but I am thinking perhaps they were from a previous marriage esp as both parents would be 'older' by 1839 and that is quite  gap in child baring years. What do you think?