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Can't find place in Ireland
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 22:08 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone, I'm looking for a little help, I have just traced my Great Grandmother who was born in Ireland through the 1901 census, I now wish to go back to find her roots, the problem is the census says she was born in "LOAMS" Ireland, but I can't find any trace of this place, anyone any ideas.. Thanks
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Re: Can't find place in Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 September 11 22:16 BST (UK) »
Hi...

Whats your great grandmothers name and year that she was born...and possibly parents names? Also, which census are you looking at, and where?

Annie
The surnames, which I am interested in are; Maternal side: Ryan, Kevin, Grant, Grady, Gleeson, Walsh, Dwyer, Paternal side: O' Dwyer, Woodlock, Rochford & Britton - all in Tipperary; and Kelly and Hoynes in Laois.

Ryan, Campbell, Luttrell, Grant, Grahame, Bainbridge and Brown in Queensland, Australia

Tighe in Victoria, Australia.

Grant in Philadelphia, Sullivan and Penny in New York; and Britton in Connecticut

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Re: Can't find place in Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 September 11 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hello fuseman and welcome to rootschat,

1901 search gives a Cecilia Marlow born c 1858 living in Walsall. Is that her?
Looking at the birthplace it looks like Toums/Toams (fist letter compares with another' T' on page).

This made me think it was Tuam (County Galway).

I can't find a marriage for the Marlows but there is a Celia Laughton (could be Faughton  :-\)  in 1881 born Tuam living in Walsall.

Could this be her?

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Re: Can't find place in Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 September 11 23:09 BST (UK) »
Hi again, yes she was Cecilia Marlow and was I believe married to Edward Marlow who lived in Walsall, I couldn't find a marriage either. My Grandmother was also listed in the 1901 census aged 15 (Emma) living at the same address. I have no idea if the marriage took place in Walsall or Ireland all I can remember from my fathers stories was that she was Irish. Now I do have Emma's birth certificate which states that her mother was Celia Marlow formally Fahy, her mark on the certificate was an X so taking this into account and the fact she is down named as Celia leaves me to think that she may have made some inaccuracies in the records due to not being not able to write as I have also drawn a blank finding a birth of a Cecilia or Celia Fahy or Fay.
From research I have carried out on ancestry I think but not 100% sure that her mother was named Mary Elizabeth Gleason. b, abt 1835 also in LOAMS d. 1923 and her father was Martin Francis Fay b. abt 1830 also in LOAMS d. 1921.  Thanks
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Re: Can't find place in Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 September 11 23:21 BST (UK) »
The Celia ?aughton in 1881 is listed as married and a sister in law to Lawrence Collins - can't find him in later censuses.

I don't quite understand re the Fahys in 'Loams' when you said you can't ind the place  ???
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Re: Can't find place in Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 September 11 23:37 BST (UK) »
I also thought of Tuam when I looked at it too.

I see that mum Cecilia died in 1906 and daughter Cecilia married in 1908.

Marriages usually take place where the girl comes from,so I wonder if they married in Ireland?

The oldest daughter was Emma born Walsall June 1886 ref 6b page 736,you could always get her birth cert to confirm mum's maiden name.

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 September 11 23:47 BST (UK) »
OOps sorry I missed the bit on your earlier posting that said you already knew her maiden name.

How about this birth- only Family Search. I know she appears older on the 1901 census but is listed as 44 when she died in 1906.

Cecilia Fahy, Birth in district of Tuam in 1866
Volume Number, 19 
Page Number, 596 
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Re: Can't find place in Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 September 11 00:20 BST (UK) »
There is a public family tree on Ancestry.com which shows a Emma Marlow (my Grandmother) I know its the correct tree as my father is also listed in the same tree, the person who made the tree states that Cecelia Marlow (my Great Grandmother) was born in LOAMS Ireland, a place I can't find if in fact it even exists, looking at the 1901 census I found the Marlow family living in Penkridge St Walsall, this is correct as my father and I were also born in Walsall, this census also shows Cecilia being born in LOAMS Ireland however I get the impression that Cecelia was unable to read and write so this place called LOAMS could have been the interpretation of who made the record ? I have my Grandmothers birth certificate, the birth was registered by Cecilia who signed it with an X (hence my reason for believing she couldn't write) on the birth certificate she called herself Celia Marlow with her maiden name being Fahy, but again this could be an interpretation of who made the record. so if LOAMS is in fact a place in Ireland then I would be looking for a Celia or Cecelia Fahy born there in abt 1858 and then moved to Walsall. In the same family tree that I found its author spelt the name Fahy as Fay? so not sure which is correct, hope this makes it a little clearer. From what you said earlier that the place could be Tuam (Tuaim) I believe this is pronounced "Choo am" This is quite possible with a strong Irish accent "choo am" and "Loam" sound very alike so perhaps that's the next place to research.. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Can't find place in Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 September 11 08:57 BST (UK) »
Whoever put the tree on Ancestry could have easily taken that census info as gospel and just copied out what the transcriber thought it said.

With genealogy you have to find every piece of evidence for yourself,and never trust what others have put until you have seen it with your own eyes.

You will find lots of threads about this on Rootschat,some people have even deliberately put a couple of wrong bits of info on their tress and watched others copy it on to theirs.

I have been doing my tree for nearly 20 years now and only recently had a major breakthrough when more parish records became available online,so don't despair if you can't find it yet,it may appear online later.

Carol
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