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FRASER family in Yorkshire
« on: Friday 02 September 11 03:40 BST (UK) »
Hi, I hit a brick wall many yrs ago with my g-gm Isabella Fraser bc 1854 Cheshire and I'm still stuck, no BC to be found.  She married in Yks 1873 aged 17-18 to John Kernick and emigrated to Oz.  She told some family her mother was Dorothy Brough; her father was Alex Fraser.
I think her parents were Alex Fraser & Is. Brodie from Scotland; they moved around England, as Alex worked on railway lines then turned to mining in Yks.  Son Robert b 1851 Abd, then Isabella c1854 Sct or Cheshire or Yks, then Wm b 1857 Norley Cheshire, then Eliz & John b Wales. I think Isabella could have been born Scot but there are so many of them.  I also think Alex died in Yks in 1885. Can't find anyone else tracing this family!
Should I give up?
KERNICK, TABB, JACKA, VEALL(Pzb-Cornwall); FRASER (Yks); RICHARDS, CHURCHER , MORGAN (Hampshire - NZ); EDDIE,TOUGH, CULLEN, URE, RAE, DOBBIE (Abd-Stirling);BLACKIE, JACK, GOURLEY, RITCHIE, S'VILLE, HALDANE, RANKINE, BALKS, FLUCKER (Sct); LEWIS, PULLIN; JAMES (Mon); MORGAN, DAVIES (Pem);BAKER, MINSHULL (Staff-London); THOMSON, CRAIG (Mdl); DIACK, MANN MATHIESON, MILNE, CRAIG, HAMILTON (Abd-Ayr); SMELLIE, GOLDSMITH, CARDOO (Lnk); GALL, EADON, YOUNG (Clk); BAXTER, BROADLEY, BOWNESS,HANDFORD,VOISEY

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Re: FRASER family in Yorkshire
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 September 11 16:12 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome

Who does SHE say her father is, on her marriage cert?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: FRASER family in Yorkshire
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 September 11 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat....I wouldn't give up when there are so many helpful people on here 8):

1861 Census:

Alexander Frazer Head age 42.. Stone Quarrier b. Scotland
Isabella Wife age 28 b. Scotland
Robert Son age 9 b. Scotland
Isabella Daughter age age 6 b. Scotland
William Son age 4 b. Cheshire
John Carruthers Boarder mar. age 56 Stone Quarrier b. Scotland
John Carruthers Boarder age 28 Railway labourer b. Scotland
Thomas Ward Boarder Unm. age 24 Railway labourer b. Ireland
Arch Mc Donald Boarder Unm. age 58 Sailor Cumberland

All living in the Parish of Kirkandrews Moat, Cumberland.

I think thing on is the best fit.

I would post this one on the Scotland board requesting info for Isabella's Birth Cert.
Hope this helps and good luck!
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: FRASER family in Yorkshire
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 September 11 16:20 BST (UK) »
Here is her Marriage record:

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
KERNICK John FRASER Isabella Rosedale St Lawrence, Ryedale Harrogate C55RY/1/123
Total records matching : 1
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http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/marriages.php


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CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: FRASER family in Yorkshire
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 September 11 16:24 BST (UK) »
...and Alex's death record:

Yorkshire Death indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
FRASER Alexander - Walmgate York WAL/54/69

Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: FRASER family in Yorkshire
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 September 11 12:43 BST (UK) »
Hi, I hit a brick wall many yrs ago with my g-gm Isabella Fraser bc 1854 Cheshire and I'm still stuck, no BC to be found.  She married in Yks 1873 aged 17-18 to John Kernick and emigrated to Oz.  She told some family her mother was Dorothy Brough; her father was Alex Fraser.
I think her parents were Alex Fraser & Is. Brodie from Scotland; they moved around England, as Alex worked on railway lines then turned to mining in Yks.  Son Robert b 1851 Abd, then Isabella c1854 Sct or Cheshire or Yks, then Wm b 1857 Norley Cheshire, then Eliz & John b Wales. I think Isabella could have been born Scot but there are so many of them.  I also think Alex died in Yks in 1885. Can't find anyone else tracing this family!
Should I give up?
KERNICK, TABB, JACKA, VEALL(Pzb-Cornwall); FRASER (Yks); RICHARDS, CHURCHER , MORGAN (Hampshire - NZ); EDDIE,TOUGH, CULLEN, URE, RAE, DOBBIE (Abd-Stirling);BLACKIE, JACK, GOURLEY, RITCHIE, S'VILLE, HALDANE, RANKINE, BALKS, FLUCKER (Sct); LEWIS, PULLIN; JAMES (Mon); MORGAN, DAVIES (Pem);BAKER, MINSHULL (Staff-London); THOMSON, CRAIG (Mdl); DIACK, MANN MATHIESON, MILNE, CRAIG, HAMILTON (Abd-Ayr); SMELLIE, GOLDSMITH, CARDOO (Lnk); GALL, EADON, YOUNG (Clk); BAXTER, BROADLEY, BOWNESS,HANDFORD,VOISEY

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Re: FRASER family in Yorkshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 September 11 12:46 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome

Who does SHE say her father is, on her marriage cert?

She has her father as Alexander Fraser ..a miner - which fits with the family I think it was.
KERNICK, TABB, JACKA, VEALL(Pzb-Cornwall); FRASER (Yks); RICHARDS, CHURCHER , MORGAN (Hampshire - NZ); EDDIE,TOUGH, CULLEN, URE, RAE, DOBBIE (Abd-Stirling);BLACKIE, JACK, GOURLEY, RITCHIE, S'VILLE, HALDANE, RANKINE, BALKS, FLUCKER (Sct); LEWIS, PULLIN; JAMES (Mon); MORGAN, DAVIES (Pem);BAKER, MINSHULL (Staff-London); THOMSON, CRAIG (Mdl); DIACK, MANN MATHIESON, MILNE, CRAIG, HAMILTON (Abd-Ayr); SMELLIE, GOLDSMITH, CARDOO (Lnk); GALL, EADON, YOUNG (Clk); BAXTER, BROADLEY, BOWNESS,HANDFORD,VOISEY

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Re: FRASER family in Yorkshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 September 11 12:47 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat....I wouldn't give up when there are so many helpful people on here 8):

I'm sure this is her family but that is really from eliminating every other one.
I like the idea of posting it on the Scottishboard, thanks

1861 Census:

Alexander Frazer Head age 42.. Stone Quarrier b. Scotland
Isabella Wife age 28 b. Scotland
Robert Son age 9 b. Scotland
Isabella Daughter age age 6 b. Scotland
William Son age 4 b. Cheshire
John Carruthers Boarder mar. age 56 Stone Quarrier b. Scotland
John Carruthers Boarder age 28 Railway labourer b. Scotland
Thomas Ward Boarder Unm. age 24 Railway labourer b. Ireland
Arch Mc Donald Boarder Unm. age 58 Sailor Cumberland

All living in the Parish of Kirkandrews Moat, Cumberland.

I think thing on is the best fit.

I would post this one on the Scotland board requesting info for Isabella's Birth Cert.
Hope this helps and good luck!
Carol
KERNICK, TABB, JACKA, VEALL(Pzb-Cornwall); FRASER (Yks); RICHARDS, CHURCHER , MORGAN (Hampshire - NZ); EDDIE,TOUGH, CULLEN, URE, RAE, DOBBIE (Abd-Stirling);BLACKIE, JACK, GOURLEY, RITCHIE, S'VILLE, HALDANE, RANKINE, BALKS, FLUCKER (Sct); LEWIS, PULLIN; JAMES (Mon); MORGAN, DAVIES (Pem);BAKER, MINSHULL (Staff-London); THOMSON, CRAIG (Mdl); DIACK, MANN MATHIESON, MILNE, CRAIG, HAMILTON (Abd-Ayr); SMELLIE, GOLDSMITH, CARDOO (Lnk); GALL, EADON, YOUNG (Clk); BAXTER, BROADLEY, BOWNESS,HANDFORD,VOISEY

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Re: FRASER family in Yorkshire
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 September 11 12:49 BST (UK) »

Thanks - I bought the certificate in 1995.

Here is her Marriage record:

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
KERNICK John FRASER Isabella Rosedale St Lawrence, Ryedale Harrogate C55RY/1/123
Total records matching : 1
 Found here :

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/marriages.php


Carol
KERNICK, TABB, JACKA, VEALL(Pzb-Cornwall); FRASER (Yks); RICHARDS, CHURCHER , MORGAN (Hampshire - NZ); EDDIE,TOUGH, CULLEN, URE, RAE, DOBBIE (Abd-Stirling);BLACKIE, JACK, GOURLEY, RITCHIE, S'VILLE, HALDANE, RANKINE, BALKS, FLUCKER (Sct); LEWIS, PULLIN; JAMES (Mon); MORGAN, DAVIES (Pem);BAKER, MINSHULL (Staff-London); THOMSON, CRAIG (Mdl); DIACK, MANN MATHIESON, MILNE, CRAIG, HAMILTON (Abd-Ayr); SMELLIE, GOLDSMITH, CARDOO (Lnk); GALL, EADON, YOUNG (Clk); BAXTER, BROADLEY, BOWNESS,HANDFORD,VOISEY