Author Topic: Pakenham, Suffolk. - SIMPER/ROBINSON  (Read 2421 times)

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Pakenham, Suffolk. - SIMPER/ROBINSON
« on: Friday 02 September 11 01:19 BST (UK) »
From the IGI I have the Christening of Mary Ann Simper Robinson 18 Sep 1814, Pakenham, Suffolk.

Her parents were John Robinson and Jane Simper.

Mary Ann Simper Robinson was the illegitimate daughter of my 3rd great grandmother Jane Simper. I have been unable to find any information on Mary Ann Simper Robinson other than the Christening from the IGI.

Any help in finding a Marriage or Death record for her would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks Jessie.
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Re: Pakenham, Suffolk. - Simper/Robinson
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 September 11 01:46 BST (UK) »
Since her parents weren't married she'd have been known as Mary Ann Simper.

A Mary Ann Simper b.1815 bur.15/5/1841 Pakenham, Suffolk.

Sounds like this could be her.

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Re: Pakenham, Suffolk. - Simper/Robinson
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 September 11 06:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reply Annette.
 
The IGI record I’m looking at is an extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed not a member submitted one. I’m fairly sure the name and dates given are accurate.

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Re: Pakenham, Suffolk. - Simper/Robinson
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 September 11 10:50 BST (UK) »
I don't dispute the baptism entry - indeed, to all intents and purposes the entry reads as if she was lawful issue of a John Robinson and wife Jane (Simper).

However, it is you yourself that says she was the illegitimate daughter of Jane Simper - how do you know this?

Did John Robinson and Jane Simper every marry?   If not, I can only re-iterate that regardless of how the name at baptism is worded if Mary Ann was indeed illegitimate she wouldn't have been known as Robinson but as Simper. 

There is nothing wrong with the dates here - the Mary Ann Simper buried at Pakenham 15/5/1841 was aged 26 - the baptism was 18/9/1814 and if born shortly before then, then Mary Ann wouldn't have been 27 until later in 1841 so the age at death does fit.

If parents weren't married, the legal surname of any children born would be that of the mother. 

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Re: Pakenham, Suffolk. - Simper/Robinson
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 September 11 21:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Annette

What threw me off was in your original reply you gave Mary Ann’s birth as 1815 not 1814.

Malcolm
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