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ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« on: Friday 02 September 11 00:40 BST (UK) »
any information appreciated, on Joseph ROSE and MaryannWELSH. Joseph ROSE was in Illchester goal 12th April 1836, ref q/agi15/3, was transported to Tasmania 15 Nov 1836 for life circa 1814, states he was single and that it was his mother that came to see him in goal. Maryann WELSH was in goal  5th Jan 1838, and again 1840 Dec 31st , she was transported to Tasmania June 1841 for 15 years, Maryann circa 1814.  Maryann and Joseph married 14th Aug 1844 in Launceston. Know details over here in Australia, but nothing more of them in England. Its not much to go on but would appreciate any help
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Re: ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 September 11 09:32 BST (UK) »
Possibles here.
http://www.freereg.org.uk
What were their ages at death?
Have you traced the court proceedings?
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Re: ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 September 11 10:10 BST (UK) »
Maryann died 6th April 1853 Tasmania--Joseph died 2 nd Nov 1882 Tasmania. Have only their convict records, and they give why they were sent to Australia.
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Re: ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 September 11 10:44 BST (UK) »
Ages would have helped pin down birth dates.Court details may have included parents names etc.
Handy site for Somerset.
http://www.wsom-opc.org.uk/
Butcher Westmorland and Lancashire
Barton Westmorland and Yorkshire
Trethowan,Reeves Middlesex
Halsall,Green,Charters,Chatterton Lancashire
Smith, Moger, Maxfield Wiltshire
Woods,Speechley and Coles Huntingdonshire
Gibson,Blanks,Monk,Fokes Essex


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Re: ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 September 11 11:20 BST (UK) »
thanks for your suggestions Warncoort, when they were married Aug 1844 Joseph age is given as 30, so that would make his birth 1814, I put wrong date for Maryann her date is given as 22 so that would make her birth date 1822, but on her convict records Oct 1841, its given as 21. I know this is a long shot to get any more information, but thanks for your help, and any other suggestions are more than welcome
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Re: ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 September 11 03:09 BST (UK) »
can anyone give me sites for court records for Joseph or Maryann, found this one
http://www.beyondtheseas.co.uk/unclaimesconvictssr.htm  there wouldn't have been much more information than I  already have, cost $24, not sure how much that would  in Aussie dollars. Thanks for help so far
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Re: ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 September 11 06:15 BST (UK) »
Cost would be around $40.Check resources page here or google Somerset Records Office.
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Barton Westmorland and Yorkshire
Trethowan,Reeves Middlesex
Halsall,Green,Charters,Chatterton Lancashire
Smith, Moger, Maxfield Wiltshire
Woods,Speechley and Coles Huntingdonshire
Gibson,Blanks,Monk,Fokes Essex

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Re: ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 September 11 07:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Warncoot, you were right, about $40. That's about what you pay for information, except from your great team, your help is very much appreciated
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Re: ROSE/WELSH convicts from bath
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 September 11 06:52 BST (UK) »
is this any more help to find Joseph?? I sent to beyond the seas for indictment files, only real new information was that Joseph was from the Parish of Batherston in the county of somerset. He went from Ilchester jail to York Hulk, moored at Portmouth for 2 mths, before being transported to V.D.L. Any help to point me to where I could look next would be much appreciated
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