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Help with Marriage Certificate
« on: Thursday 01 September 11 12:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have a marriage certificate and in the Fathers Name & Surname box the surname is underlined, above it is the number 1 in brackets and what looks like another name at the side can anyone tell me what this means?

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Dee
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Re: Help with Marriage Certificate
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 September 11 12:24 BST (UK) »
Where there are numbers besides entries this is usually to signify that an amendment has been made. There will be a list of such amendments in the original register and why they were made.

Without seeing the entry it is hard to say why it was made.

You could try contacting the registrar's office for where the marriage happened to see if they can throw more light on this. Alternatively if you can scan that part of the certificate and put it on here people could say what they think it is.

Are you sure there is not reference elsewhere on the certificate to what the (1) refers to ?
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Help with Marriage Certificate
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 September 11 13:04 BST (UK) »
The annotations are part of the system of doing corrections in registers. All corrections of a minor nature occurring at the time of the entry have to be numbered, obviously to prevent someone coming along later and altering an entry. Therefore, in this case, the correction would have been made at the time it was entered and is the first such correction in the register. Just to clarify, corrections of errors discovered, at the time of entry, before completion of the certificate are just numbered and initialed in the margin.
For errors discovered within a month of the entry being made then the Registrar (in the case of a Register Office marriage) in the presence of the relevant parties, or in their absence in the presence of the Superintendent Registrar and two other credible witnesses, corrects the erroneous entry by entry in the margin, without making any alteration of the original entry, and sign the marginal entry, adding date when the correction was made. In the case of a church marriage then it is the minister in the presence of the relevant parties. The reason for the corrections is written in the margin of the certificate. They are not entered in a separate book.
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Re: Help with Marriage Certificate
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 September 11 16:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your replies

Here is the image from the Certificate, now it looks like it says the name Poyner and HOW underneath  to me, which is interesting as one of the witnesses was an L Poyner.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

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Dee
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Carter/Stanley - Macclesfield
Ferguson - Stockport


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Re: Help with Marriage Certificate
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 September 11 16:39 BST (UK) »
You seem to have forgotten the cert  ;D

If you look at a preview of the posting you have to re attach the image.

Please note that only small sections of certs(not the whole thing!) are allowed on Rootschat.

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Re: Help with Marriage Certificate
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 September 11 16:59 BST (UK) »
Here is the Image hopefully?
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Re: Help with Marriage Certificate
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 September 11 17:02 BST (UK) »
HOW could be the initials of the person making the correction

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Re: Help with Marriage Certificate
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 September 11 17:03 BST (UK) »
The initials under the Poyner would be those of the registrar who made the amendment to the form. It looks like dad's name was Pickering but also went by the name Poyner.

There should be a note in the side column with some writing and a number 1 to explain the alteration?

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Re: Help with Marriage Certificate
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 September 11 17:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your replies.

Thank you Carol for the explanation, I have been trying to trace the Pickerings in the 1901 census for Samuel and his son Samuel  born circa 1892, I have just had a look under the name Poyner for the same birth year in 1892 and low and behold only 1 result, both Samuel and Samuel the father whose occupation is an Iron Worker (Pudd) which ties in with his fathers occupation on the Marriage Certificate.

Hopefully I can find the Birth Certificate and tie it all together.

Thank you very much

Regards Dee
Heywood - Staffordshire
Carter/Stanley - Macclesfield
Ferguson - Stockport