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Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« on: Wednesday 31 August 11 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hi looking for information on Laurence & Mary Fox as per census lived in rope walk, drogheda. Had children Thomas (1882), John (1884), Agnes (1886), Elizabeth(lizzie)(born 1895 and Laurence born 1899/1900.  Mary fox was from mountmellick I believe and her daughter Lizzie married a Martin Phelan also from mountmellick think he was born 1892 circa.  Any information about fox or phelan would be greatly appreciated thanks

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Re: Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 August 11 19:47 BST (UK) »
Have you found a marriage record for Laurence & Mary - do you know her maiden surname ?

1911 census for reference : Fox family, Drogheda

Based on the ages for Laurence & Mary  on the 1911 return they were born before the start of civil records, so you would need to search for parish records for them.


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Re: Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 August 11 20:13 BST (UK) »
Hi  I think Mary and Laurence married about 1880 in mountmellick I think she could have been Phelan I al only guessing that as they had a visitor in the 1911 census Susan Phelan, mountmellick .   her granddaughter Lizzie also married a  martin phelan from mountmellick  so just trying to see if Martin and Susan and Mary where related

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Re: Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 September 11 15:01 BST (UK) »
St. Peter's Parish Cemetery, Drogheda:
PHELAN: Patrick Phelan, Marian Park, 25th November 1979. His parents, Martin, 4th February 1950. Elizabeth, 5th December 1966.

There is a Fox inscription that may be of interest:
FOX: John Fox, 14th February 1917. His wife Jane, 16th April 1954. His sons, Laurence, 30th June 1947, John, 19th August 1965. Laurence Fox, interred in this cemetery. Patrick (Paddy) Fox, 16th March 1990.
Louth: Hall, Kindlon, Hughes, McAuley, Cumiskey
Cavan: Langan, Reilly
Dublin: McAuley, Murphy
England & Wales: Parkhouse, Callow, Callowhill, Vinall, Huzzey, Mortimer


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Re: Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 September 11 19:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that information jbhall, yes the phelan is my great grandparents grave
Maybe the John Fox you mention was Elizabeth's brother as I know she had a brother John, Thomas, Laurence and sister Agnes. I will have to try and dig further
Just a quick question is the John fox you mention in St Peter's too?  thanks again Sav

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Re: Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 September 11 19:37 BST (UK) »
Yes. Both are in St. Peter's Parish Cemetery in Drogheda.
Louth: Hall, Kindlon, Hughes, McAuley, Cumiskey
Cavan: Langan, Reilly
Dublin: McAuley, Murphy
England & Wales: Parkhouse, Callow, Callowhill, Vinall, Huzzey, Mortimer

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Re: Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 September 11 19:41 BST (UK) »
thanks again must try and locate this grave regards

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Re: Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 September 11 15:43 BST (UK) »
there's a good possible match for the birth of the youngest child in the Phelan household on the 1901 return - might be worth a try to confirm Mary's maiden surname :

  Name: Laurence Fox
  Registration district: Drogheda
  Event type: Birth
  Quarter and year: Oct-Dec 1898
  Volume : 2 / Page : 365

census return for reference : Phelan household - 1901


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Re: Phelan-mountmellick /Fox-Drogheda
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 September 11 15:49 BST (UK) »
and a possible marriage for Laurence and Mary in Dublin (where the elder children were born) :

  Marriage of Laurence Fox & Mary Phelan - 2 May 1880
  St. Andrew's RC, Dublin City

A civil cert would show occupations - here are the BMD Index references :

  Name: Laurence Fox
  Registration district: Dublin South
  Event type: Marriage
  Quarter and year: Apr-Jun 1880
  Volume : 2 / Page: 620

  Name: Mary Phelan
  [same index refs. as Laurence]

see :

 Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon

 Details included on a Birth Cert
 Details included on a Marriage Cert

 

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