Name of Estate in Golden Grove.Llandybie

[romangirl]

  Thank you for this I have managed to get this also have both death certs for Elizabeth and Thomas but still no marriage!!! I have gone back to 1891 For Elizabeth( Silverthorn ) and according to census she was married ( James)        On the census it says there is about 8 years between them,                 but   on death certs
Elizabeth was 48 in 1917 and Thomas was 58 in 1918.?      I wondered if maybe he,s been married before but I cannot find anything on him at all not even birth cert.
                         Regards Romangirl

[wilcoxon]

Thank you for this I have managed to get this also have both death certs for Elizabeth and Thomas but still no marriage!!! I have gone back to 1891 For Elizabeth( Silverthorn ) and according to census she was married ( James)        On the census it says there is about 8 years between them,                 but   on death certs
Elizabeth was 48 in 1917 and Thomas was 58 in 1918.?      I wondered if maybe he,s been married before but I cannot find anything on him at all not even birth cert.
                         Regards Romangirl

Was Silverthorn her married  name and she was married to James Silverthorn ,
 or was she married to a James Walker ?  with maiden name Silverthorn from a childs bith certificate I presume .
Again full census refences details will help.

Is this her .
Births Sep 1869
Silverthorn Elizabeth B. Bedminster 5c 732

[romangirl]

  Hy sorry about confusion Elizabeth,s maiden name was Silverthorn B- Leicester 1870
Parents Luke Silverthorn and  Jane Withers
Luke died aged 24 and on 1891 census its says Elizabeth Louisa  married name. James
She was living with her mother Jane Silverthorn- widow  in Iron Acton Gloucestershire and then she,s in
Golden Grove Llandybie in 1893!!!!! with Thomas Henry Walker.

[wilcoxon]

RG12; Piece: 1997; Folio 104; Page 13;

1891
Jane Silverthorn wid  49 laundress b Iron  Acton,
Elizabeth L Silverthorn   James,  Marr  20 b  Leicestershire
 
 
 Damned Anc*** they have transcribed her as Silverthorn even though she is M and  a James. 

 Now the thing is, in 1901 Elizabeth is born Gloucestershire, and here she is born Leicestershire.
Have you got a child birth certificate to confirm it is her.

[bevbee]

Did Thomas go on to have 14 children? The reason I ask, is because my Grandmother used to talk about a family she remembered with 14 children living in the Toll Gate who used to sit one on each stair to eat their meals. 

Bev.

[romangirl]

Jane Withers was born in Iron Acton Gloucester 1850 and the census ref is RG12/1997
She married Luke Silverthorn Dec qtr 1868 page 353  in Chiping sodbury on census 1891 she was 49
and lived at 8 The Green Iron Acton   regards Romangirl

[wilcoxon]

Also on the 1911 census.

This should say how many years married, children born to that date and how many died, any little clue to find them, so far I`m struggling .

[romangirl]

  Hy  Bevbee yes they did have 14 children, I dont think they would have had a table big enough to seat them all. I wonder if its the same family?   romangirl

[bevbee]

Grin Hy  Bevbee yes they did have 14 children, I dont think they would have had a table big enough to seat them all. I wonder if its the same family?   romangirl

Yes, in that case, it must be the same family.