Graham-1912-to Canada possibly Quebec.

[JMoo]

This is probably a very long shot but we've tried looking and we can't find my OH's Great Granda who went to Canada in 1912 as a young man of 17. He lived in Garrabost in Lewis but we don't know which port he went from in the UK or when exactly except 1912 and possibly to Quebec.

Is it possible to for anyone to find anything out? His name was Malcolm Graham, known as Mal Graham. DOB 24/10/1895.

Thanks in advance

[emarbe]

Hello JMoo

It's a good job you mentioned his short first name

Departure date - June 14 1913 on the ship Athenia of the Donaldson Line, bound for Quebec & Montreal, Port of departure - Glasgow.
Mal Graham. age 19. Resident of Scotland. Farm Hand.

Mike

[polarbear]

The Athenia arrived Quebec 23 Jun 1913.

Malcom Graham, 19, arrived with $15.00, on his way to his brother in Fort William Ontario. His brother (not named) was a farmer and that is the occupation Mal was going to take up as well. Mal was going to be travelling by train from his port of landing to Fort William.

Polarbear

[JMoo]

Thanks very much to you folks, appreciate that....

Hmmm that's thrown up more questions as they don't think he did have a brother out there!  Well not one they were aware of!

Don't suppose it's possible to find out who the brother was by any chance? Anything we can try to find out?

[emarbe]

I don't know whether polarbear would have a look to see if there is a Mal Graham arriving in Canada at the same time as I noticed on the passenger list that there was another Malcolm (not Mal) who was the same age and his occupation was Farm labourer, but his name was crossed through so don't know if he sailed.

The other name on the list was definately Mal.

Mike

[polarbear]

Hi again

Here is a link to the passenger list for the Athenia that arrived as above. It can be searched page by page to see if there is a Mal as opposed to a Malcolm. If I recall correctly *A* did not put a 'Mal' in their Canada inbound index, only the Malcolm I happened across. Sorry he doesn't appear to be yours.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-119.01-e.php?&sisn_id_nbr=6247&interval=20&&PHPSESSID=8qt7g785kqteh6lq7ul1l58hi6

PB

[emarbe]

I think I've solved one problem

On the outbound list, the two Malcolm/Mal Grahams are one and the same, even though they are on different pages as the Mal Graham has been deleted from the passenger total.
All of the entries, outbound and inbound have the same ticket number 3913, so it looks as though the one on arrivals is correct.

Mike

[polarbear]

Good to know they are all the same person. Now there is the 'problem' of the brother. There is no cebsus until 1921, which will be released in 2013. Did your Mal marry in Canada?

[valeriec]

If the brother immigrated before 1911, you may be able to find him on the 1911 census.
You can try this site and see if you can find a possible brother.
http://automatedgenealogy.com
1911 Census of Canada
Ontario
Thunder Bay and Rainy River
Fort William is Districts 20-29

The easiest way to search is to put Graham under surname search and then pick out ones that may match and then use the split view to look at original census pages. Census info gives age, country of birth, year of immigration, occupation and religion.

I would look for names that may fit in with a naming pattern that was very common in Scotland. Naming sons after father, grandfather, parents brothers.

Donald, age 28 and John , age 22 are two possible brothers but would take more researching to confirm.

If the brothers enlisted in the CEF, it may be possible to find them if the parents and addresses are listed as Next of Kin. You may have to wait for the 1921 census to get any real information.

If someone is able to find a marriage certificate tha may have the same prents listed would be another possible way to find the brother.

If you can provide the names of the parents, someone may work their magic and find something.