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Drawing a blank
« on: Monday 29 August 11 21:58 BST (UK) »
I am having a problem tracing Daniel KALCHER married to Lilian SMITH in Exeter. I know they lived in London, but having a real problem getting solid BMD for them. And their ancestors... I need to go back as far as I can for my son's school project!!

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Re: Drawing a blank
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 August 11 22:01 BST (UK) »
Do have any dates?
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Drawing a blank
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 August 11 22:07 BST (UK) »
Believe the marriage was 1931... want to find out their occupations etc for project and those of their ancestors...


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Re: Drawing a blank
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 August 11 22:13 BST (UK) »
Here's the marriage

December quarter 1931 Exeter vol 5b page 240
Daniel KALCHER
Lilan M SMITH
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Drawing a blank
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 August 11 22:14 BST (UK) »
There is a death for a Daniel Kalcher in the Hackney District of London in 1948-Volume 5c,Page 562.His birthyear is given as c 1906.Therein lies the problem as I can't find his birth anywhere in England or Wales at about this time.


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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Drawing a blank
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 August 11 22:15 BST (UK) »
The marriage is registered at Exeter Oct-Dec 1931 bride Lilian M Smith Vol 6b p 240.

That marraige certificate is the starting point as it will state who his father was and their occupartions, the same for the bride and the names of witnesses are often of interest. Buy the certificate.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Drawing a blank
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 August 11 22:17 BST (UK) »
There is a death for a Daniel Kalcher in the Hackney District of London in 1948-Volume 5c,Page 562.His birthyear is given as c 1906.Therein lies the problem as I can't find his birth anywhere in England or Wales at about this time.



I think the name might have changed Kalaher or something like it!

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Re: Drawing a blank
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 August 11 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

FreeBMD holds 4 entries for Daniel Kalcher/s (you don't give any dates)

Births Mar 1891  Kalcher  Daniel    London C  1c 11   
Marriages Sep 1917   Kalcher  Daniel  Nye  Holborn  1b 1212   
Marriages Dec 1931   Kalcher  Daniel  Smith  Exeter  5b 240   
Deaths Jun 1948  Kalcher  Daniel  42  Hackney  5c 562

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

1948 death apparently was from pulmonary TB 22nd May.

On a free search of the 1911 census there is a Daniel Kalcher in an institution born Clerkenwell. The age given is 36 and he appears to be the son of Maurice aged 38 on the 1881 census in Clerkenwell and born Ireland so perhaps some connection with this family. If so expect some variations in the spelling of the surname e.g. Kalecher.


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Re: Drawing a blank
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 August 11 22:52 BST (UK) »
Daniel and Lilian M Kalcher appear to have had up to six children born between 1932 and 1939.I can't name them publicly on here as they could well be still alive.I'll send a PM.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk