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[trish1120]

This looks like them in 1881 although Elizabeths age is a little out and POB different;

1881 Census
St Mary, Dundee, Angus
James SIM, 27, (1854), Head, Joiner, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Elizabeth Sim, 25, (1856), Wife, born Dundee
William Sim, 8mths, Son, born Dundee

[TinyUK]

Hi TinyUK

Welcome to  Rootschat.  I am sure that you will receive heaps of assistance from people on this site.

Firstly though, do you have a copy of either your father's birth certificate or his marriage certificate??  This would be a good place to start as it will confirm a few facts for you. 

Also have you used FreeBMD as a resource??  It shows that a Leslie SIM, mother's maiden name SIDER was born about the right time as your father.  There is also a marriage for a Robert SIM and a Maud L M SIDER which could be his parent's.

Cheers
Karenlee

Hi, Karenlee.
Many thanks for the welcome and the advice. I have ordered my grand parents marriage cert, from the GRO. (Cheapest place I think) I haven't ordered my fathers birth cert., as yet because of the cost. I had lung cancer nearly 4 years ago and a lobectomy, so am now unable to work it left me with COPD.
Now I think on, Sider was my grandmothers maiden name. I remember my father telling me many years ago, that anyone with the name Sider or Smee were possibly relatives of mine.

I think you may have scored accurately on the info. It must be a gift you have.

I have tried the BMD but I could only get so far, when they wanted payment. bummer.

But I am most grateful for your help, and the help of all the other replies I have had; I will be writing to those, too.

One more question, if I may. How do we know the information we find is correct? Very much like a detective novel. lol

Take care.

TinyUK

[TinyUK]

I looked for a Robert Sim in both England and Scottish 1901 census. None with a birth year close to 1884 born Renfrew living in England but this in
Scotland 1901 census

Robert Sim age 18 born abt 1883 at renfrew, Linlithgowshire, Montrose, County Angus.
Occupation -  2nd Roye Highrs,
Address Near Wet Dock Montrose (no of registration district 2)
Panmure Barracks Montrose.

If this is your man he joined the army at an early age not just when there was a war on.
Askarenlee says you need certificates certificates to make sure you have the right man and not wasting your time chasing the wrong family.

Hi, Crisane.

Many thanks for the post and info. I have already replied to Karenlee, so will not duplicate what I have said to her, I presume everyone can see the replies I have received? Never done anything like this before or even used anything like rootschat.

Your info is great, will certainly be checking everything when I get his marriage certificate.

What is puzzling, is the info you have found shows your Robert Sim to be in the 2nd Royal Highlanders;
So how come I have him in 413 1st Bn S W Borderers based in Chatam Barracks 1913? I know nothing about the army and how it/was structured. As Holmes might say, the plot thickens...lol

Again, you have been great help, many thanks.

Kind regards

TinyUK

[TinyUK]

Hi


Medway is a civil registration district. It covered all these areas listed, including Rochester

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/medway.html

Civil registration districts should not be confused with individual places whose names they might share in the area they covered.


Regards

Hi, Valda

Many thanks for the link.

That explains why I couldn't get any  info searching just Rochester.

Again, thanks for posting.

Kindest regards

TinyUK

[TinyUK]

Robert Sim age 18 born abt 1883 at renfrew, Linlithgowshire, Montrose, County Angus.
Occupation -  2nd Roye Highrs,
Address Near Wet Dock Montrose (no of registration district 2)
Panmure Barracks Montrose.
.

Definitely some comfusion over where he was born! Renfrew is in West of Scotland, Linlithgowshire is in modern West Lothian!

Only one Robert Sim born 1883 - 1885 Angus according to Scotland's People - you might want to check this one out.

1 1883 SIM ROBERT M ST PETER DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/01 0484

Hi. Portybelle

Thanks for info.

I am finding everything confusing at the moment. lol

My grandfather didn't have a middle name that I am aware of.

I have taken your info on board, and will have to cross ref it with the info I get from their marriage cert.

Many thanks for the posting.

Kindest regards

TinyUK

[carol8353]

What is puzzling, is the info you have found shows your Robert Sim to be in the 2nd Royal Highlanders;
So how come I have him in 413 1st Bn S W Borderers based in Chatam Barracks 1913? I know nothing about the army and how it/was structured. As Holmes might say, the plot thickens...lol

Again, you have been great help, many thanks.

Kind regards

TinyUK

Tiny

You say you have him in 1913.........do you mean the 1911 census?

Do you know for definite that is your grandad? Born in 1884 in Renfrew?

Carol

[carol8353]

I have tried the BMD but I could only get so far, when they wanted payment. bummer.

TinyUK

The website http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ is, as it says free to look at,is that the one you were using?

The Scottish one,Scotland's People IS a pay per view one,but not the England and Wales one 

Carol

[TinyUK]

What is puzzling, is the info you have found shows your Robert Sim to be in the 2nd Royal Highlanders;
So how come I have him in 413 1st Bn S W Borderers based in Chatam Barracks 1913? I know nothing about the army and how it/was structured. As Holmes might say, the plot thickens...lol

Again, you have been great help, many thanks.

Kind regards

TinyUK

Tiny

You say you have him in 1913.........do you mean the 1911 census?

Do you know for definite that is your grandad? Born in 1884 in Renfrew?

Carol

Hi, Carol.

Thanks for the reply.

I made a mistake, I was searching the Scottish site, and as you say that is a Pay site.

I have now searched the Free BMD site, and can confirm that my grandparents were married in 1913. I searched the marriages section. Another member of Rootschat has found a record for Renfrew. Until I get the marriage cert. through the post, I do not have many other leads.

I have always been told that my grandfather came from Broughty Ferry; but that could have meant his parents...

Thanks for the effort you are putting into this.

Kindest regards
Tiny

I do know that my father was born Sept 8 1913

[TinyUK]

Think the Renfrew Robert could be the one.   Checked his birth certificate:

b.24/1/1883 at 2hr.30m a.m. at 8 Bell Street, Renfrew to James Sim, Joiner and Elizabeth Jane Sim, formerly Bennie (or Bernie), who married 24/6/1879 Dundee.

Informant was James Sim, father.

I am only able to view a transcript of the 1891 Census but living at King Street, Broughty Ferry, Monifieth, Angus:

Elizabeth Sim   31       Dressmaker          b. Denny, Stirlingshire
Robert Sim         8                                    b. Renfrew
Jessie Sim          2                                    b. Dundee

In 1901 Robert Sim 18   b. Renfrew is a private in 2nd. Royal Highlanders in Montrose, Angus.

The 1891 Census thus clearly shows that Robert lived at Broughty Ferry as a child, and I note on 'google' that Broughty Ferry is described as an old fishing village.

Annette
 
Hi, Annette.

Many thanks for the posting, and you great results.

I see the link with Broughty Ferry, maybe he was just brought up there and not born. Being young he may not have been told he was born in Renfrew...or maybe it was easier just to say BF...lol

I didn't know he had a sister; never mentioned it. If she is not mentioned in later records, could it mean she died young?

I have so much info to go through, and now have to try and piece it all together.

If I am able to do this, do you think the people that have been invaluable in assisting, would like to know how far I have managed to get?

Kindest regards

TinyUK