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Re: Newbies first post
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 16:24 BST (UK) »
I see that Emma and James married in Tendring.

This looks like her birth reg.

Mar 1848

Emma  SMEE in Tendring volume 12 page 279

The marr cert will confirm her dad's name(hopefully!) and then you can follow her through the censuses.

Carol
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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 16:35 BST (UK) »
According to the 1901 and 1891 censuses found for you on the previous page Emma was born in Great Oakley- not Scotland?

In 1881 she is at 44 Church Street Harwich.

James Sider 32 head fisherman out of employment b Boreham essex
Emma Sider 31 wife b Stones Green Essex
Robert W. Sider 6 son... .kids all b Harwich
Henry J. Sider 4 son
Samuel R. Sider 2 son
James E. Sider 10 mths  son

RG1/1782 folio 12 page 17.

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Hi, Carol, again.

Yea, I am also looking for my Grandfather Sims' family; they are Scottish.

My Grandmother Sims' family Sider, and before that Emma Sider was Emma Smee.

All hail from Essex/Suffolk way

I have problems with dates.

When I strted trying to continue what a lot of you good people on roots chat have done for me; I was sane. I am slowly going mad.

Regards

Tiny

P.S. Just seen your latest posting. How are you searching? should I say which datbase?

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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 16:40 BST (UK) »
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

I narrowed it down by putting in Essex as the county and between 1845- 1851.

And then checked by clicking on the blue word Tendring to see that Great Oakley came under that district.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/tendring.html

Also using An.....ry for censuses.

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Re: Newbies first post
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 16:56 BST (UK) »
I see that Emma and James married in Tendring.

This looks like her birth reg.

Mar 1848

Emma  SMEE in Tendring volume 12 page 279

The marr cert will confirm her dad's name(hopefully!) and then you can follow her through the censuses.

Carol


Hi, Carol.

Guess the only thing to do is wait until I get the marriage cert.

I just hope I have ordered the right one. lol

Any ideas how I can trace a birth dating circa 1823 in England?

Regards

Tiny


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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 17:22 BST (UK) »
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

I narrowed it down by putting in Essex as the county and between 1845- 1851.

And then checked by clicking on the blue word Tendring to see that Great Oakley came under that district.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/tendring.html

Also using An.....ry for censuses.

Carol


Hi, Carol.

I see...I don't think I can make my searches in the free BMD that selectful....


I guess I have a heck of a lot to learn...

Thanks

Tiny

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« Reply #41 on: Friday 08 November 13 12:13 GMT (UK) »
I'm new to family history research so realise I am coming in rather late on this topic, but I was very excited to discover it.  Robert Sim was my grand uncle.  I know quite a bit about his family but there are gaps that I'm struggling to fill.

Here's some of what I know (and have the GROS registration entries to support the info):

Robert Sim's father was James Sim, born about 1854 in Dundee; died at sea 16th November 1905.  He was a joiner, who later became a ship's carpenter and it was while working as a carpenter on the Ancenis that he was swept overboard and drowned.

Robert's mother was Elizabeth Jane Benny.  She was born 27th October 1853 in East Borland, Denny, Stirlingshire.  She and James Sim married on 24th June 1879 in Dundee.  She was a Milliner.  they had 7 children:

William James Benny Sim (my grandfather) was born 11th July 1880 in Dundee.  He was a Stationer's Porter.  He married Barbara Donaldson 9th September 1904 in Glasgow.  They had one son, Malcolm, born 16th November 1906.  Barbara died in 1907 of TB and William returned to Dundee, where he died 20th July 1942.

Ann Sim was born prematurely in October 1881 in Dundee and lived only 3 days.

The next two children, Robert and Annie, were both born in Renfrew.  Renfrew is on the River Clyde and there was a strong shipbuilding industry.  My guess is that James Sim may have moved there to work as a joiner/carpenter on the ships, but it's just a guess.

Robert was born on 24th January 1883 as you know and I have also found the records relating to Panmure Barracks and the SW Borderers.  I know that he served in India while in the army - from his father's testament  and the SW Borderers were certainly in India at the time in question.

Annie was born 23rd January 1885.  She was living with her grandparents, Donald and Sarah Sim and brother William in Coupar Angus at the 1891 census.  Donald Sim died in 1894.  In the 1901 census, Annie and Sarah Sim were living at 5 Reid Street, Govan (also a shipbuilding area), Glasgow and this is also the UK address given in James Sim's testament.  Annie married Joseph George Reynolds in 1907 and they remained in Glasgow.  They had 3 daughters.  One, Annie Sim Reynolds, died as a toddler of TB.  The other 2 still have family members in the Glasgow area.

The next of James and Elizabeth's children was Janet Benny Sim, born 25th May 1888 in Dundee.  The 1891 census shows her living with Robert and mother Elizabeth in King Street, Broughty Ferry (which is very close to Dundee).  She married Archibald Rogers in Liverpool in 1908 - her address on the marriage registration was in Dundee.  Archibald was killed in WW1.  Their son, Henry John Rogers was born in 1909 and he was killed during WW2 when his ship was torpedoed by a German U-boat.  There was also a daughter, but I don't have details, other than that she was known as "Bunt".

Janet remarried in 1923 to William Henry Bomford.  They had 2 children, Vera and William Douglas (known as "Douglas" or "Doug".  Vera settled in Panama  and Douglas lived in Chile, Peru and Panama before settling in Florida.  He died in September 2013.  Janet settled in Wallesey in the Birkenhead area of Merseyside.  she died in 1970.

The next child was Donald, born 13th April 1892 in Broughty Ferry.  I haven't located him in the 1901 census.  In the 1911 census he was with the Air Battalion of the Royal Engineers in Aldershot.  He married Annie Dodds and settled in the Birkenhead area.  He died in 1955.

The youngest child was David Taylor Sim, born 3rd November 1893 in Broughty Ferry.  I can't locate him in the 1901 or 1911 censuses.  He married Florence Teggins in 1922 and they lived in Wallesey, Birkenhead.  He was a baker / confectioner.  He died in 1972.

I would be really interested to here more about Robert Sim and his descendants.  I was aware of Leslie Robert Sim.  Were there other children? Where did Robert and Maud live and die?

I've not really discovered anything about Elizabeth Jane Benny/Sim after 1893 (the birth of the David Taylor Sim) although there was an Elizabeth J Sim who died in 1931 in Wallesey, who might be her.  I haven't worked out how Janet, Donald and David all wound up in Wallesey/Birkenhead.  the other strange thing is that James Benny's testament was handled by Annie Sim, who at that time stated that she had not heard from her mother in 12 years and the only sibling she makes reference to is a brother in the army in India (who would be Robert) so it seems that she had also lost touch with older brother William (who was actually living only a few miles away in a different part of Glasgow at the time) and the younger siblings, Janet, Donald and David.

I have the birth registrations for all the siblings, showing parents James and Elizabeth and the correct date and place of their marriage, so am confident that there's no mistake there.

I have more information about the family if it's of interest and would be very interested in what you've been able to find out.

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« Reply #42 on: Friday 08 November 13 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dingross

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

According to his profile, TinyUK hasn't been online here since 2011.

As long as his email address hasn't changed he should receive email notifications that we have posted and hopefully come back soon.

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« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 14 December 16 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I came across this, and I have a little extra to add.

It would appear that Robert Sim started his career in the Royal Highlanders, and that he went to India. Based on his later service number, it appears that he transferred to the 1st Battalion South Wales Borderers on or around 14 April 1910, and subsequently returned to Chatham with the battalion at the end of 1910.

As well as his three campaign medals, he also received a Long Service and Good Conduct medal in 1919.

It appears there are two further courses of action:

1a. Write to the MOD Medal Office, and ask as to his medal entitlement. I would also ask if they can let you know when he left the army. There is a remote (and unlikely) possibility that he served elsewhere (such as Waziristan), and the Medal Office could double-check for the legal next-of-kin.
1b. It could be the case that he left the army from 1922 onwards. If this is the case, his service record could well survive, but you would need to find out his seven digit service number as issued in 1920
2. The museum at Brecon has a 1920 Description Book. If he was still in the army in 1920, he would appear in the book. I do not know if you could pay a visit there, or if they will get a volunteer historian to look at it for a fee, but this is worth following up. I do not see any legal reason why anyone can be prevented from asking for this information.

Hope this helps.

Regards