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Re: First man executed at Norwich Prison
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 06 February 25 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kirsty
Thanks so much for responding!!
I’m Bob. Interestingly my brother Ian -who together with his wife Claire joined us at Sophia’s grave -has a daughter Kirsty.
When we visited Sophia’s grave Gill and I said some words in our Path and Ian and Claire said a Christian prayer and then we went for some lunch. We understand that Father Paulinus Heggs said a prayer over George’s burial place and- in the absence on duty of the Pagan Chaplain  - said my words.  Forgive and be Forgiven.   We think it was Thomas who saw the murder. All of this was kept away from me and my brothers and I’m not sure what my Dad knew.  All kept silent but -as Mark Wolynn’s  ‘it didn’t begin with you’ makes clear - nothing needs to be said. There are three generations of anxiety and depression
Alexander (Jim) and Don persuaded the pilot of a plane they repaired to take them for a joyride. And then -despite the fact that the plane couldn’t do it- to perform some aerobatics. It crashed and all were killed.
We are glad Sophia’s grave is visited. It looks loved - did you find a homemade circlet of ivy and rosemary when you last visited?  I’m giving up driving because everyone drives so fast nowadays so we will not visit again. We respect all Paths and Faiths so, in addition to your word and prayers, would you say our words? 
You are right about the Watt family bearing a burden of guilt. I have heard other stories but can’t recount them because of trespassing on other lives.
The graves of executed prisoners need to be marked. We went to the National Memorial Arboretum a couple of years ago and saw that the Shot at Dawn memorial is respected. Prisoners’ graves should equally be respected.
Bright Blessings to you and your Family
Bob

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Re: First man executed at Norwich Prison
« Reply #19 on: Monday 10 February 25 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob!

Oh really? I've never been a fan of my name after my mum told me I was named after a character from a horror film  ::)

Unfortunately I haven't gotten to visit Sophia's grave since just before Christmas. Some health issues going on at the moment so as soon as I'm fit enough I'll visit. If there was either a bauble, a little Merry Christmas or a pine cone on a stick at her grave that was us. I'm not too sure which we left her.  I'm glad you got to visit. We always make sure the area is clear. I remember when I used to visit my mum and uncle when I was 15 (back in 2005), the big fir tree behind her gravestone was so much bigger than it is now. We often cut back branches as they covered her, and there was always had some ivy growing on it. I don't blame you for giving up driving. I'm not allowed to drive due to epilepsy, but sometimes when I see how others drive I'm quite thankful for that!

I realised it must have been Thomas who witnessed it as Malcolm died aged 2, 7 years before the murder.

Did Thomas ever mention his brother Joseph? He was a policeman and tragically died aged 32 in Romford high street after trying to stop a runaway horse. I visited Romford Cemetery with my mum and uncle nearly 2 years ago and as you walk into the chapel, there are displays of people buried within the cemetery that are a part of their "Lives Remembered Exhibition". Much to our surprise we saw Josephs face up there with a little information around him and his death. He has no gravestone, but the people featured in the exhibition have marble markers so his grave was easy to find using the map.

I don’t suppose you have any photos of Thomas at all please?

I hope that all makes sense.

Kirsty
BLYTH - Norwich, Bradford
BUCK - Horsham St Faiths
DERBYSHIRE - Lancashire, Leeds
EASTO - Bungay, Diss, Fressingfield, Norwich
EDGE - South Creake
HOLMES - Crostwick, Norwich
JACOBS - Norwich, Tasburgh
LANDAMORE - Old Catton
MANN - Aylsham, Norwich
MURRELL - Norwich
OLLEY - Norwich, Fulham, Great Yarmouth, Hammersmith, Skeyton
PAINTER - Wigan
ROWE - Wigan
SAVORY - Flitcham
SMITH - Norwich
STOREY - Skeyton
UNDERWOOD - Lancashire

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Re: First man executed at Norwich Prison
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 13 February 25 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

If you have an e-mail address I'm happy to send you some bits I have.

Hope you're well

Kirsty
BLYTH - Norwich, Bradford
BUCK - Horsham St Faiths
DERBYSHIRE - Lancashire, Leeds
EASTO - Bungay, Diss, Fressingfield, Norwich
EDGE - South Creake
HOLMES - Crostwick, Norwich
JACOBS - Norwich, Tasburgh
LANDAMORE - Old Catton
MANN - Aylsham, Norwich
MURRELL - Norwich
OLLEY - Norwich, Fulham, Great Yarmouth, Hammersmith, Skeyton
PAINTER - Wigan
ROWE - Wigan
SAVORY - Flitcham
SMITH - Norwich
STOREY - Skeyton
UNDERWOOD - Lancashire

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Re: First man executed at Norwich Prison
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 February 25 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Kirsty
Is there a way of doing this less publicly?  Facebook then Messenger comes to mind. It would be good to speak. Bob