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Snell Family bible entry
« on: Friday 26 August 11 21:13 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Following the death of my mother a couple of months ago, I feel very privileged  to have come across a Bible belonging to William Snell, who was born 23 October 1833. The Snell family were my maternal Grandfather (Trevor Salathiel)'s mother (Mary Snell)'s family.

William has written that  Ann Jones was his wife and then "I William Snell married Mrs Sarah Thomas, widow of the late David Thomas of the Red Bow (Cow? Dow?) Caerphilly at the register office Pontypridd on 5th day of May 1898."

 "Mrs Sarah Snell died 21 day of May 1909 aged 74 years", which means that she was 63 when she married William.

I can only assume therefore that the 9 children mentioned (3 of whom died in infancy), who were born between 1859 and 1875 were all the children of William and Ann.

I am hopeful that some kind person may know something about the Red Bow (Cow? Dow?) and also be able to find the maiden names of the 2 wives.

Many thanks in anticipation.
Sue
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also Annis/Tremeer/Martin/Clarke

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Re: Snell Family bible entry
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 August 11 21:30 BST (UK) »
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and also be able to find the maiden names of the 2 wives

Have you checked freebmd for a Snell/Jones marriage?  A copy of the certificate will show whether Ann was also a widow when they married

Have you checked freebmd for a death for Ann?  If she died after 1881 - have you checked the 1881 census for her birthyear and birthplace?

Have you checked for the 1898 marriage on freebmd?  You would need to buy a copy of that cert to find her true maiden name - her fathers name and surname should be shown

www.freebmd.org.uk
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

EDIT

1861 shows Ann b 1834 Lanvabon, Glamorgan - one child only aged 1yr so marriage late 1850's

1901 shows Sarah b 1835 Caerphilly
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Re: Snell Family bible entry
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 August 11 21:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Carole

On FreeBMD I have found marriage in Sept qu 1858  Abergavenny 11a 75 between Ann Jones & William  Snell. Not knowing the area I am unsure whether that covers the Lanvabon area or not.

More exciting is that I have found that 2 of the pages of the Bible, which are missing one of the corners were stuck together!

 William had started on the front page and had then rewritten it on the next page, where he gives more information -
 "Ann Jones wife of William Snell was born April 14th 1834. They were married at the parish Church of Bedwelty in the County of-----mouth on the 4th day June ---- by Edmund Leigh. ---Snell died December 17th ---- aged 61 years interred -----Martin Churchyard Caerphilly"

Sue
   
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Phillimore-Wiltshire/Hants/London
Bendall (Bendle)-Hants/London
Bunnett-Norfolk, Devon
Drewry/Drury-Kent, London
Haines-London
Ivers-Devon, Kent
Jater-Kent, London
Sellers-Devon, Kent
Salathiel/Snell-Glamorgan/Sussex/Surrey
Whitehair-London
also Annis/Tremeer/Martin/Clarke

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Re: Snell Family bible entry
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 August 11 22:06 BST (UK) »
Carole,

Do you recall whether the 1yr old on 1861 census was called John - "born the 15 day of July 1859"?  Only the next one was Henry, born 16th April 1861, so I need to check what date the 1861 census was taken as it sounds as if Henry's birth was imminent at the time! :)

Sue
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Phillimore-Wiltshire/Hants/London
Bendall (Bendle)-Hants/London
Bunnett-Norfolk, Devon
Drewry/Drury-Kent, London
Haines-London
Ivers-Devon, Kent
Jater-Kent, London
Sellers-Devon, Kent
Salathiel/Snell-Glamorgan/Sussex/Surrey
Whitehair-London
also Annis/Tremeer/Martin/Clarke


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Re: Snell Family bible entry
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 August 11 22:18 BST (UK) »
Yes - the one year old was called John

The 1861 census was taken on the 7th April
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Re: Snell Family bible entry
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 August 11 22:24 BST (UK) »
I have just checked the 1881 census and it shows:

William SNELL    M     Male  47     Caerleon, Monmouth, England  Pesway Railway Inspector     
 Ann SNELL     Wife     M     Female     46     Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales          
 John SNELL     Son     U     Male     21     Llanfabon, Glamorgan, Wales     Railway Station Master     
 Henry SNELL     Son     U     Male     19     Llanfabon, Glamorgan, Wales     Railway Plate Layer     
 Thomas SNELL     Son          Male     14     Llanfabon, Glamorgan, Wales     Scholar     
 Mary SNELL     Daur          Female     11     Gelygaer, Glamorgan, Wales     Scholar     
 David C. SNELL     Son          Male     5     Gellygaer, Glamorgan, Wales     Scholar     
 Mary F. BOWEN     Serv     U     Female     18     Llantrisant, Glamorgan, Wales     General Serv ,

but I am now intrigued because the Bible entries do not show a Thomas (c 1867) at all! It has got:
John  b.15th July 1859
Henry  b.16th April 1861
Margret Ann  b.13th Aug 1865    d.1st Nov 1863
Lewis   b. 1st Oct 1864
James   b.21st Jan 1869
A Mary  b. 27th Nov 1869
Sarah   b. 9th Feb 1872          d. 9th April 1873
William  b. 12th Sept 1874      d. 5th Oct 1874
David Charles   b. 27th Nov 1875

so I wonder what happened to Lewis and where did Thomas come from - possible he was Lewis Thomas I suppose, but William's entry does not show a 2nd name.

Regards
Sue
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Bendall (Bendle)-Hants/London
Bunnett-Norfolk, Devon
Drewry/Drury-Kent, London
Haines-London
Ivers-Devon, Kent
Jater-Kent, London
Sellers-Devon, Kent
Salathiel/Snell-Glamorgan/Sussex/Surrey
Whitehair-London
also Annis/Tremeer/Martin/Clarke

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Re: Snell Family bible entry
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 August 11 22:25 BST (UK) »
1871 census for Gelligaer shows Ann's birthplace as Eglwysilan, Glamorganshire

Children were all born Llanfabon except Mary:

John  11
Henry 9
Lewis   6
James  4
Mary   1 b Gelligaer
RG10 Piece 5389 Folio 68 Page 4
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Re: Snell Family bible entry
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 August 11 22:41 BST (UK) »
So Lewis & James were both there in 1871, but no Thomas. Curious!
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Phillimore-Wiltshire/Hants/London
Bendall (Bendle)-Hants/London
Bunnett-Norfolk, Devon
Drewry/Drury-Kent, London
Haines-London
Ivers-Devon, Kent
Jater-Kent, London
Sellers-Devon, Kent
Salathiel/Snell-Glamorgan/Sussex/Surrey
Whitehair-London
also Annis/Tremeer/Martin/Clarke

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Re: Snell Family bible entry
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 August 11 22:49 BST (UK) »
freebmd has births for Lewis in 1864 and James in 1867 - nothing for Thomas
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