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Hammetts from Youghal,
« on: Monday 22 August 11 23:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Trying to find out infomation on Mary Eliza Hammett and John Hammett from Youghal, Cork county , Ireland, born Apr 24, 1852..Does anyone know or have anything/ or directed search on them?  Also looking for Elizabeth Hanan from Youghal b.dec 19, 1813..

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Re: Hammetts from Youghal,
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 August 11 00:12 BST (UK) »
From family search pilot John Hammett married Elizabeth Hannan in Youghal, Feb 23rd 1852. He was a widower and his father was John Hammett. She was single and her father was Joseph Hannan.
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=close&placeId=8003246&surname=Hammett&alivePlaceLoc1=Cork%2C%20Ireland&p=recordResults

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Re: Hammetts from Youghal,
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 August 11 21:20 BST (UK) »
Oh, thank you so much Culbaire. I've been trying to find my grt, grt mothers' family.  Do by chance have any more info on Elizabeth Hanan's mom?  Tried to locate her birth papers in Ireland but was told that only those from 1864 are listed.  Where can I possibly get a copy of her birth paper?

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Re: Hammetts from Youghal,
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 August 11 21:31 BST (UK) »
Registration of births started in 1864- there are no birth certificates earlier than this so you'd need to see if church records exist.
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Re: Hammetts from Youghal,
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 August 11 23:38 BST (UK) »
The only info I have is that posted in my first post. This link should work to where I found that. https://www.familysearch.org/search/records#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AElizabeth%20%2Bsurname%3AHannan%20%2Bany_place%3ACork%20%2Bany_year%3A1852-1852~
(first link was to family search pilot -(closed tuesday 23rd August)). Looks like you need to try and access church records in Youghal Co Cork. Have no knowledge re church records in Cork but I am sure someone here will be able to give you more info.

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Re: Hammetts from Youghal,
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 August 11 10:43 BST (UK) »
The RC records for Youghal are on the pay to view site www.rootsireland.ie
You can search for free and glean quite a lot of info but it's €5 a record to download.
CoI records are not online.
Burns Scotland/Australia/Cork
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Re: Hammetts from Youghal,
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 August 11 13:30 BST (UK) »
Due to the date, the 1852 marriage would probably be non-Catholic, unless it took place in a registry office - so possibly Church of Ireland.

The Representative Church Body Library in Co. Dublin holds many of the historic CofI records, and they have details for the parish of Youghal back as far as 1666. As agho mentioned these are not available online for this parish, you would have to visit the RCB library to view them.

You could establish a few additional details that might help, by ordering the marriage cert for John and Elizabeth. e.g. this would show the name of the Church, and the denomination. Occupations for the groom and the two fathers, names of two witnesses,  and also current residences for the bride and groom (although these can be basic). These are the details you need to order the cert from the GRO :

  Name: John Hammett
  Registration district: Middleton
  Event type: Marriage
  Year: 1852
  Volume : 8 / Page : 78

  Name: Elizabeth Hannan
  [same references as John]

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 Details included on a Marriage Cert



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p.s. not sure why the civil marriage was listed in the district of Midleton and yet the extracted record states Youghal..  but the districts are adjacent.
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Re: Hammetts from Youghal,
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 August 11 20:46 BST (UK) »
It's possible the extracted record is from the church register hence why it says Youghal. This was possibly the nearest CoI. If they lived between Youghal & Midleton then Midleton could have been the nearest registrar's district. Midleton was a very extensive district covering a wide area of East Cork.
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Re: Hammetts from Youghal,
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 August 11 23:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the helpful info.  I shall look into getting their marriage certs.  I tried the site for ordering but didn't get it quite right.  Will try again later.  It seems odd .  According to my cousin's research so far, John Hammett may have married 3 times,  first to Dorothea Dudley second to Elizabeth Dudley then to Elizabeth Hanan.  I can understand that he may have been widowed ...but I'm a bit perplexed.  Anyway, I'll try to get marriage records to figure it out.. It is said that John Hammett was born in Bandon, Ireland.  Any info on what county is that? Thanks again..