Author Topic: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)  (Read 4096 times)

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This is the Military Campaign and a ward roll I found today of my ancestry John Liversage (but it says Liversedge on here), he is the last name on the list (he was in the Military between 1793 - 1815), but I can't make out the writing that has been written underneath and at the end of his entry, and I don't really understand what the whole document is telling me. So any help will be truly gratefully received. I hope the picture is clear enough.


Thank you in advance for your time and trouble x

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Re: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 August 11 21:02 BST (UK) »
Ok, first off this is telling you is that John Liversedge served in the 23rd Regiment (at the top of the page). It's a page from the regimental medal roll, which means he was entitled to the Military General Service medal
http://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/britishguide/militarygeneralservice1793_1814.htm
Each column refers to a particular clasp for the medal, so you'll see he has 4 check marks next to his name meaning he was entitled to clasps for Corunna, Salamanca, Badajoz and Toulouse. I confess I can't read the scrawl underneath but according to my printed roll the regimental roll lists possible entitlement to the Fuentes D'Onoro clasp as well, so I'm guessing that's what it's saying. (the FD clasp here would be very unusual, possibly even unique, in the regiment).

The medal was only awarded in 1847 to veterans still alive at the time, so you can infer that about hiim straight away.
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Re: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 August 11 21:08 BST (UK) »
It also says he served in Capt Hawtyn's company I see.
He also served with the regiment at Waterloo, but at that point he was in Capt Harrison's no.3 company.
So he would have received the Waterloo medal too.
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Re: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 August 11 22:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for all your help Neil1821. It really has made things a bit clearer for me, and is very much appreciated. I can't wait to tell my Dad now.

Thank you ;D


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Re: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 August 11 05:10 BST (UK) »
hi,,,,if its the same man    John Liversage was b c1770 in Poolford ,Chester.

he first joined the 1st Dragoon guards in 1793,,,then joined the 23rd foot in 1807.
he served 15 years and 279 days and was allowed 2 years extra for service at Waterloo.
He was discharged through general debility in may 1817 age 47.
on discharge he was 5 ft 7",,grey hair,,grey eyes,,dark complexion,,and a labourer by trade.  ;)
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Re: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 August 11 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Curly

The headings on your document appear to be as follows:

Corunna, Martinique, Albuhera, Ciudad Roddrigo, Badajoz, Salamanca, Vittoria, Pyrenees, St Sebastian, Nivelle, Nive, Orthes, Toulouse

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Re: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 August 11 09:40 BST (UK) »
Duplicate thread on Photo Restoration board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,550955.0.html

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Re: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 August 11 10:21 BST (UK) »
hi,,,,if its the same man    John Liversage was b c1770 in Poolford ,Chester.

he first joined the 1st Dragoon guards in 1793,,,then joined the 23rd foot in 1807.
he served 15 years and 279 days and was allowed 2 years extra for service at Waterloo.
He was discharged through general debility in may 1817 age 47.
on discharge he was 5 ft 7",,grey hair,,grey eyes,,dark complexion,,and a labourer by trade.  ;)

Hi

Thank you for this information  ;D Could I please ask where you got this information from and can I obtain a copy of it, as it does sound like my John Liversage. Sorry for all the question but this is the first time I have research any military connection.

I would again like to thank everyone for there help and I am sorry I duplicated my question. Would you like me to remove the post from the Photo Restoration board?

Thanks
Debbi x

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Re: Explaination needed of a Military Campaign and award roll (served 1793 - 1815)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 August 11 10:39 BST (UK) »


I would again like to thank everyone for there help and I am sorry I duplicated my question. Would you like me to remove the post from the Photo Restoration board?

Thanks
Debbi x

Not a problem Debbi, I have asked people on the Photo Board thread to respond on this one so there will hopefully be no confusion :)