Margaret LORKING c. 1817 Stratford, Essex

[Valda]

Hi


The surname on census indexes is often transcribed as Larking or Laking.


Regards

Valda

[garstonite]

1861 census , Stratford
William Lorking aged 41 b Stratford
Adaline Lorking aged 18 daughter  b Stratford

if this is William who married Hannah Pigrome, there is no sign of Hannah.
allan

ADDED...on reading Valdas post again , she states that William jnr is with Margaret snr in West Ham in 1861 census...

so who is the William Lorking I`ve found with daughter Adaline ?....maybe there is another Lorking family ?

[Valda]

Hi allan


Can you give the reference for the 1861 census entry you are quoting?


These are the full entries for William and Adeline/Adaline Lorking on the 1851 and 1861 censuses. Adeline/Adaline was with her maternal grandparents on the 1851 census which is why I knew the marriage reference I gave for William was correct.

1851 census HO107 1768 folio 325
1 Nursery Terrace West Ham Essex
William Lorking 30 Head Married Silk Printer + ? Stratford Essex
Hannah Lorking 3 Wife Married Plaistow Essex
Margaret E Lorking 6 Daughter West Ham Essex
Anne P Lorking 4 Daughter West Ham Essex
Alfred E Lorking 2 Son West Ham Essex
William Lorking 11 Months Son West Ham Essex
plus 1 servant

1851 census HO107 1768 folio 514
Plaistow Essex
John Pigram 60 Head Married Dock foreman East Ham? Plaistow Essex
Hannah Pigram 59 Wife Married   ?  Plaistow Essex
Eliz Elle Pigram 25 Daughter National School ? Plaistow Essex
Mary Pigram 22 Daughter Domestic Servant Plaistow Essex
Hanrieth Pigram 17 Daughter Government Pupil Teacher Plaistow Essex
Adaline Lorking 8 Granddaughter Stratford Essex

1861 census RG9 1057 folio 69
5 Montague Terrace West Ham
William Lorking 41 Head Married Leather Cloth Painter Stratford Essex
Hannah Lorking 41 Wife Married School mistress (inf) Plaistow Essex
Adaline Lorking 18 Daughter Stratford Essex
Emma Lorking 16 Daughter West Ham Essex
Annie M Lorking 14 Daughter Pupil Teacher N S West Ham Essex
William Lorking 12 Son West Ham Essex
Alfred E Lorking 10 Son West Ham Essex
Walter H Lorking 6 Son West Ham Essex
Margaret Lorking 65 Mother Widow Boarder Guildford Surrey


By 1869 Adeline was married

Marriages Mar 1869   
Lorking  Adeline    W Ham  4a 11



Regards

Valda

[garstonite]

Apologies Valda.....I only put in Stratford ,Essex on Record Pilot - so Only William and Adaline showed on the record I viewed...I see why now - because the rest of the family were not born in Stratford...I was initially trying to find any Lorking in Stratford only...sorry for misleading anyone, that`s a lesson learnt for me...we learn every day...
allan

[Valda]

Hi

If possible it is always best to look at the census itself as there can be errors also in the census index (as well as made by the enumerator themself - or factual inaccuracies given by whoever filled the household schedule in in the first place that the enumerator copied). On the 1881, 1871 and 1861 censuses William is indexed as Lorking, but on the index I am using as Larking in 1851 and Larkin in 1841.


More frustrating is trying to find Margaret senior on the 1851 and 1871 censuses. Youngest son Peter married 18th August 1850 St Mary Whitechapel (found on censuses from 1861 onwards) to Harriet Byworth, though he gave his father as William Lorking a cheesemonger.
Emma may have married very young in 1850 (civil registration district St Martin Westminster). There is an Emma Hudson wife of Charles Hudson aged 18 born Stratford Essex in Mitcham Surrey on the 1851 census. One of the potential spouses for the 1850 marriage in the civil registration index is a Charles Hudson. The couple are in West Ham on the 1861 and 1871 censuses. Margaret senior is not with them on the 1871 census, nor with William also in West Ham or Peter in Holborn in 1871 the year her death is later registered in West Ham district.
George married at St Helen Bishopgate in the City of London 27th January 1848 to Harriet Gardner Burley. He gave his father as William a tailor. The couple emigrated to Australia.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13454104


Regards

Valda

[mikeyr62]

Hi


The surname on census indexes is often transcribed as Larking or Laking.


Regards

Valda

Thank you - much appreciated info.

Mike

[mikeyr62]

1861 census , Stratford
William Lorking aged 41 b Stratford
Adaline Lorking aged 18 daughter  b Stratford

if this is William who married Hannah Pigrome, there is no sign of Hannah.
allan

ADDED...on reading Valdas post again , she states that William jnr is with Margaret snr in West Ham in 1861 census...

so who is the William Lorking I`ve found with daughter Adaline ?....maybe there is another Lorking family ?

I have to be honest and say that I am completely confused by all of these Lorkings

More importantly perhaps, no matter what variation of the surname I use, I cannot find Margaret on the 1841 census   

Any ideas - anybody - please?

Mike

[mikeyr62]

1851 census HO107 1768 folio 325
1 Nursery Terrace West Ham Essex
William Lorking 30 Head Married Silk Printer + ? Stratford Essex
Hannah Lorking 3 Wife Married Plaistow Essex
Margaret E Lorking 6 Daughter West Ham Essex
Anne P Lorking 4 Daughter West Ham Essex
Alfred E Lorking 2 Son West Ham Essex
William Lorking 11 Months Son West Ham Essex
plus 1 servant

Are you suggesting that this William may be a younger brother of my great great grandmother - Margaret?


Mike

[mikeyr62]

Hi

If possible it is always best to look at the census itself as there can be errors also in the census index (as well as made by the enumerator themself - or factual inaccuracies given by whoever filled the household schedule in in the first place that the enumerator copied). On the 1881, 1871 and 1861 censuses William is indexed as Lorking, but on the index I am using as Larking in 1851 and Larkin in 1841.


More frustrating is trying to find Margaret senior on the 1851 and 1871 censuses. Youngest son Peter married 18th August 1850 St Mary Whitechapel (found on censuses from 1861 onwards) to Harriet Byworth, though he gave his father as William Lorking a cheesemonger.
Emma may have married very young in 1850 (civil registration district St Martin Westminster). There is an Emma Hudson wife of Charles Hudson aged 18 born Stratford Essex in Mitcham Surrey on the 1851 census. One of the potential spouses for the 1850 marriage in the civil registration index is a Charles Hudson. The couple are in West Ham on the 1861 and 1871 censuses. Margaret senior is not with them on the 1871 census, nor with William also in West Ham or Peter in Holborn in 1871 the year her death is later registered in West Ham district.
George married at St Helen Bishopgate in the City of London 27th January 1848 to Harriet Gardner Burley. He gave his father as William a tailor. The couple emigrated to Australia.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13454104


Regards

Valda

This becomes more and more complex as each post adds to the equation.

I think though that you have found the correct family though, as the son-in-law of my Margaret died in West Ham in 1925.

There was no reason as far as I can tell for him to be in West Ham (other than maybe, he was visiting the family of his wife Elizabeth Tapley/Tirebuck)

Interestingly enough, although Thomas B. Tirebuck's death can be found, his wife's can't. His wife was Margaret's daughter - Elizabeth. In fact both Thomas and Elizabeth disappear completely from both the 1901 and 1911 censuses. I thinkI have a very strange family 

Mike