Can anyone help fing Edwin and Elizabeth Newby?

[SoupDragon64]

Hello All,

I'm wondering/hoping! if anyone can help me find my great grandparents on the 1891 census - I'm having no luck and it's driving me nutty.

They are Edwin Newby, born 1862 (May I think) Much Woolton, Liverpool  and his wife Ann Elizabeth (nee Potter) born 1863, also Much Woolton.  They married in 1883, and had a son, Edwin James Miles Newby, born 1884. They also had another son Oswald Charles, born 1890.

I have Ann Elizabeth living with someone else on the 1901 census with their other children, but she did not marry this man until 1915, but she is listed as his wife.

I can't find a record of Edwin's death, so I really don't know what to do to find out what happened to him and where they were in 1891.

Any help, information or suggestions would be really appreciated.  Many thanks in advance.

Soupdragon64

[t mo]

hi sd64
i,ve found anne e newby and 3 boys in 1891 cen
anne elizabeth newby   married age 26   born woolton lancs
edwin jall  newby   age 6 born garston lancs
willie e newby age 4    deaf and dumb since 3   born garston lancs
oswald c newby age 9 months born garston lancs
address 37 york st  garston
 but so far cant find edwin .
is this edwin in 1881 cen living with james pye and family address ,number 1 aston st, garston he,s down as stepson on cen .
also have you found a marriage for edwin and anne elizabeth only doing a quick search i haven,t found one !!
regards
trevor

[garstonite]

There are Newby and Pye families in Garston present day...I know the Pye family personally, and also a couple of the Newby family....Garston and Woolton are next to each other...I can walk from my house in Garston to Woolton in 20 minutes

Ann Elizabeth Potter to Edwin Newby sep qtr 1883  West Derby  Liverpool   8b 709
allan

[Gibel]

Oswald married in 1920 he states his father Edwin is deceased also says he's a fireman (maybe on a ship could account for him missing in censuses).

As Annie doesn't marry until 1915 it's possible that it's around then that Edwin dies.

Gibel

[garstonite]

Has anyone checked WW1` deaths in 1914 ?
allan
ADDED....not there , so didn`t die in WW1

this gets more curious...there is another Edwin James Newby who dies sep qtr 1959 in South Liverpool aged 48 - so born 1910-1911....Garston is South Liverpool...could this be another Edwin James born to Ann - the first one having died ?
FORGET that...just checked and there is no death for Edwin James Miles Newby b sep 1884....but...that Edwin J Newby born 1911 is registered under the Garston district???....curious

[t mo]

hi garstonite
don,t forget about boundary changes over the years just in case it helps you as your the person on the ground so to say .
regards trevor
ps that marriage was a good find 

[t mo]

hi all
just found on free bmd a marriage of an edwin james newby to either a sarah ellen collins or  a florence mabbett at prescott lancs in march 1910 vol 8b page 916 .
also a death for an edwin j m newby  birth about 1885   death reg jan - mar 1965 age 80  reg dist liverpool south vol 10d p 687.
trevor

[mosiefish]

On the baptisms of Elizabeth Agnes and Oswald Charles it states Edwin was a Mariner. 

Mo

[t mo]

well done mo , that could well be why he doesn,t show in 1891 cen then if he was abroad , although most british nationals are counted where ever the may be .
trevor