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« on: Tuesday 16 August 11 23:59 BST (UK) »
Looking for the marriage record for the marriage of Richard Haynes (Haines) to Margarete S. I believe in Anyho between 1650 and 1660.

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Re: Marriage Record
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 November 11 04:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There are going to be some variations and omissions with 300 years + history, however...

The following has been found on Family Search (All resources, link below):
Richard Haynes, b. 1645, Anyho, spouse Margaret.
Richard Haines, b. 1647, Anyho. D. 1682 at sea, crossing to US. Spouse Margaret.
Richard Haines, b. 1639/40, Anyho. Parents John Haines & Elizabeth Stanford.

It does look as though Richard married Margaret in 1660, on balance.

At this time, it is unclear whether or not Margaret died in the same sea tragedy.

Link as suggested earlier > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=search_all1.asp&clear_form=true

Hope this is of help.

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Re: Marriage Record
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 November 11 04:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Sorry, when you hit the link, you need to input the following:

Richard Haynes
Event, all
Year 1665 +/- 10
England.

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Geoff
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Re: Marriage Record
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 November 11 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the look-up. Unfortunately these types of sites are full of unsubstantiated material. For instance John Haines and Elizabeth Stanford can in no way be the parents of "Richad Haines who died at sea in 1682" a little research will show that John Haines was a Colonial Governor in the America's in 1634 when Richard was born. People want to connect the dots so bad that they don't take the time to verify fact from fiction. which makes it very hard on those of us who do. Thank you and good hunting.


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Re: Marriage Record
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 November 11 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Yeah, quite agree with your analysis about the submitted material, though if there's nothing else, one can hope for a lead or two...

Those that I picked out were around the date you mentioned, sorry they weren't any help.

I suppose it's naive of me to suggest that the US records may be of some help!

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Re: Marriage Record
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 November 11 17:51 GMT (UK) »
From what I have gathered from my research here on this side of the pond is that Richard Haines' family Bible starts with his marriage records and his children. The Bible was published in 1681, just one year before he left. From all the research I have scraped together I feel his father shuned him for becoming a puriton and disowned him. I found a will that I believe is Richard's father and though  a Richard is the eldest child he is only left 10 Pnc. and the younger siblings inhieret a very, very large amount of land and money "some of the land was free will land granted by the King". This will is dated only months before Richard sailed for the America's. I think it was the deciding factor for Richard to leave and why I can not connect the dots any further. None of his children's Bibles mentions any family beyond their father and mother. So my research is now around any birth record of Richard Haynes born around 1634, I then trace all I can find in looking for a will for that Richard, If I find a will I know it is not the one I am looking for. So he gets crossed off the list and I keep looking.

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Re: Marriage Record
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 March 12 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Gov. John Haynes of Conn. (1594-1654) was the son of John Haynes of Much Haddom, Essex. There is much history available. Google Gov. John Haynes
and it will keep you spellbound for hours.  Also Google Gen. Hezekia Haynes.
Being a general and the son of a colonial Governor there is a lot of history about him, including wills, letters, etc.  I found the book you mention 'the complete memoirs of Richard Haines' on the internet.  On page 140 and 141 it mentions these Essex Haynes.  It supposes the Hezekia may have had an older brother John.
  When Gov. Haynes left England in 1634. He was a widower and left his children in the care of relatives.  He remarried in 1635 to Mabel Harlakenden.
His first son with her was John Haynes.  He is the one who went to Harvard
1656.  Hezekia visited his father in Conn. and brought a portrait of himself dressed in armor.  It has appeared on the internet lately as John Haynes, and John Richard Haynes. 
  Some of the genealogical sites tracking Gen. Hezekia's line list Margret Cokayne as the first wife of Gov. John Haynes and is the mother of John Richard Haynes (1614-16??) .  She then died in 1615.  Gov. John then married Mary Thorton in 1616.  Hezekia born 1619, christened 1621. John Richard christened 1617.   I've always wondered why John Richard has a middle name.  Is that common for this time period?  May by he went by the name Richard?   
  The Richard Haines that died at sea 1682 was a member of the 'society of friends' (a quaker).  there are records of he and Margaret joining in Aynhoe.  Of the few records found in Aynhoe Richard's name is spelled Haynes, Haine, and Haines.   Probably depended of who ever had the pen in their hand at the time. 
  Gov. John Haynes was a Puritan. 

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