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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 17 August 11 19:40 BST (UK) »
I can see a family that seems to fit for Daniel, but he was born in Anglesey, not Carmarthenshire. There's quite a distance in between & wouldn't be an easy, or a very likely, journey.

1881 Mill St, Llangefni, Anglesey RG11/5586 folio 33 pg 9
Elizabeth Morgan head widow 62 b. Anglesey, Llangristiolus
Edward son widower 30 general labourer b. Llangristiolus
Pierce son 18 shoemaker b. Llangefni
Edward grandson 9 b. Llangefni
William grandson 3 b. Caernarvonshire, Bethesda
Daniel grandson 9 b. Bethesda

1861 Mill St, Llangefni RG9/4362 folio 34 pg 14
Elizabeth Morgan head mar 42 pauper 
Daniel son 12 labourer
Edward son 10
Ellen dau 5
all born Llangristiolus

marriage reg
Daniel Morgans dec qtr 1872 Bangor vol 11b pg 1054 with Ann Shearan on the same page
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 17 August 11 20:25 BST (UK) »
1871 census has Daniel born Llangristiolus lodging in Llanllechid in Caernarvonshire with a Williams family RG10/5733 folio48 pg 4. Also in Llanllechid

1871 28 Cilfodau St, Llanllechid RG10/5733 folio 48 pg 4
James Sheeran head mar 67 quarry labourer b. Ireland
Elizabeth wife 56 b. Ireland
Ann dau 22 b. Ireland
Thomas son 18 b. Bangor
Mary grand dau 5 b. Llanllechid
Thomas grandson 4 b. Llanllechid

birth reg for Thomas
Thomas Sheeran sept qtr 1866 Bangor vol 11b pg 525

1861 16 Garden St, Llanllechid RG9/4350 folio 92 pg 15
James Sheeran head mar 58 brewer's man b. Ireland
Elizabeth wife 45 b. Ireland
Patrick son 19 mariner b. Ireland
Ann dau 14 b. Ireland
Thomas son 8 b. Bangor
Ellen Welch visitor widow 60 hawker b. Ireland
James Sheeran relative widower 26 foreman in marine store b. Ireland
John Sheeran relative 5 b. Bangor
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 18 August 11 02:23 BST (UK) »
thanks for info. there are two daniel morgans they are father and son. son stayed in wales and father emigrated to usa. my husband is daniel the sons grandson his mother is annellen morgan who emigrated to australia in 1920. all the family seemed to live in llangefni wales. daniel the sons d-i-l and her 2 children still live there.
i am interested in anything on the family whether in wales or usa. i think the reason for caenarfon is because that is the registration district and not the actual birth place could this be right. as far as i know they were all in anglesey.  thanks for all input from everyone

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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 18 August 11 21:08 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I didn't mention Caernarfon, town or registration district, but the county - Caernarvonshire. Daniel was enumerated in Llanllechid, Caernarvonshire in 1871 & married in the Bangor registration district in Caernarvonshire. According to the census, Daniel junior was born in Bethesda. He appears to have been born before the marriage of his parents
birth reg
Daniel Morgan Sheeran sept qtr 1871 Bangor vol 11b pg 509

Births have to be registered where they take place & the Bangor registration covered several parishes including Bethesda
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/bangor.html

That doesn't mean that he didn't grow up in Anglesey, but he wasn't born there.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #13 on: Friday 19 August 11 05:09 BST (UK) »
thanks for that osprey. you have clarified this up. i wondered if they lived there originally and then went to anglesey later. its very confusing at times, with the two daniels and no second name. i assume ann's parents went to wales because of the hard times in ireland with the potato famine etc. cheers mirambu

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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #14 on: Friday 19 August 11 10:45 BST (UK) »
well, Daniel senior seems to be from an Anglesey family. Both his parents were born there.

1851 Bodafon Bach, Llangristiolus HO107/2520 folio 88 pg 17
Hugh Morgan head mar 33 coal miner b. Anglesey, Llanfihangel Esceifiog
Elizabeth wife 32 b. Llangristiolus
Annie dau 8 b. Llangristiolus
Daniel son 3 b. Llangristiolus
Edward son 1 month b. Llangristiolus

birth reg
Daniel Morgans june qtr 1848 Anglesey vol 27 pg 455

The birth cert would confirm maiden name of mother, but this looks like a possible marriage reg

Hugh Morgans march qtr 1842 Anglesey vol 27 pg 539 with Elizabeth Jones on the same page
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 August 11 15:09 BST (UK) »
thank you osprey for the info. i have just sent an email to my husbands first cousin in llangefni asking him if he knows the maiden name of his gggfather hugh's wife. seems you may have solved that for me.

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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 04 September 11 13:56 BST (UK) »
aghadowey
I don't think i replied to you.  :'(sorry about that.
I am interested in the Morgan family of mine that went to usa also those that stayed in wales. i have some info because i wrote down a lot of what mum was telling me but unfortunately we were in darwin nt when cyclone tracey went through and lost everything. the sad think is i lost my family history papers as well and sadly by this time mum was in a home both deaf, blind, no legs and faulty memory. i remember the stories but not exactly who they pertained to except for her father daniel morgan hiding in the haystack when 9yrs old when he was supposed to go with his parents to america. he didn't want to go and after this lived with his grandmother elizabeth.
thanks to all for their interest in my search. i have concluded that they went to pennsylvania. found the 1900 census with them but the 1910 census doesn't seem to be our daniel.

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Re: immigration into usa from wales
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 00:57 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure what to make of all this, I've just picked up my MORGAN line research again and thought the following from the OP was MY family!:

1900 census usa: daniel, plains, luzerne, coal miner, immigration 1884
1910 census usa: daniel, plains, luzerne, coal miner, married, boarder emigrated 1880. no ann in it.
1910 census usa: patrick, plains, luzerne, b 1883, married, 2 stepdaus, emigrated 1890. no trace of him after that.
no trace of prince or pierce.

I have the personal name Pierce in my Morgan line so it makes sense, but like the OP, I could not find "Prince" after the 1910 PA census. It could be that he died.

I'm very interested in what anyone has found about this, as I knew my MORGAN's had settled out in that general area of PA (then some moved slowly west toward Berwick, PA, at least one married an O'BRIEN and moved on to OHIO). But I also found my grandfather's marriage certificate and it states that his father was from out in Plains, PA.

I'm just so excited to see this thread on MORGAN. My MORGAN'S have been very elusive thus far, I assume it is because they moved around to where the work was.