Parentage for Ross-on-Wye ancestor

[ssiii]

I would like to know who the parents of Florence Annie Hayward were.  I think her father was Charley Hayward spelt like that.
Florence was born in 1886 at Ross-on-Wye. I know that Charley married Sarah Ellen Stuart later, in 1892 so I'm trying to find out if Sarah Ellen had had this child 6 years earlier or whether Charley had been previously married.
In 1901 Florence is living with Charley and Sarah as "daughter" aged 14.

Any insight would be really helpful.

ssiii

[suzard]

1901 census has "Charley" as "Charles" and "Sarah Ellen" as "Ellen"
RG13 2419 179 17

Suz

[ssiii]

thanks but enumerators sometimes did that for Charley.  Sarah usually used her middle name in later life.  Any advance on the parentage of Florence?

[danuslave]

The only sure way would be to get her birth certificate

Florence Annie Hayward  Jul-Aug-Sep 1886  Ross  Vol 6a  Page 463

Linda

[suzard]

I am trying to find the whereabouts in 1891 (by the way -Charley is Charles in image)

Is it possible Charles/y was married previously and wife died between census
It doesn't seem Florence would be the daughter of Sarah Ellen .

What name did Charley marry in??
What census etc is he "Charley" is his birth reg "Charley"?

Suz

[suzard]

I have found marriage reg to Sarah Ellen and his name is Charley - birth reg Charley - 1881 census Charley

I am trying to find whether he was mainly Charley or Charles on records.
Hoping this will enable finding him in 1891 -but haven't had any lick o far -or for an earlier marriage reg in name of "Charley"

Sarah Ellen can be found on earlier census as a servant and single -it doesn't look like she had any children

But where was Charley hiding Florence in 1891
It really is a puzzle??

Suz

[ssiii]

Yes, it really is a puzzle.  Sarah's grand-neice insists this was not Sarah's child. I've also done all the usual hunt arounds for Florence and Charley in 1891 - can't find them.

[suzard]

It doesn't look like Florence was Sarah Ellen's child

There are too many Charles Haywards to find a previous marriage

We know he wasn't married at the time of 1881 census

I think the only way to solve this mystery (and to be able to research with more certainty) is to invest in the birth certificate -this will give mother's maiden name too

Suz

[scuda-j]

www.forest-of-dean.net has the baptism of Florence Annie Hayward at Walford on 25 July 1886, parents Wilson (a turner) and Jane. Walford is about 3 miles south of Ross.

Jane