Silsden Parish Registers - Wilcock

[little meg]

me again 

The Silsden parish registers also have a John and Ann (Hannah) Wilcock from Holden Top.

I put up 'Holden Top, Yorkshire parish registers' in google and came up with a site for the Thornber family.
Unfortunately cannot put the site up for you.

But it stated:
Holden is a small village about a mile west of Bolton by Bowland, 4 miles west of Gisburn.
It was originally in West Yorkshire but is now in Lancashire, with the border changes.

Hope all this is of some help.

Margaret

[Jenny72]

Oh wow! You have been busy!

Thank you for all those details.

It's very interesting that he was a widow when he married Ann, makes sense as far as the dates go but still strange as neither wife seems to have had a Thomas in their list of children!
I wonder if there was a third partner in between 1796 when Tabitha died and 1802 when he married Ann.

Also interesting about Holden. I had a look at the site. Quite amazing that it changed counties as late as 1974. I know that there are loads of Wilcocks entries for Gisburn which is quite nearby.

You're so right, it is confusing!

Jenny

[little meg]

It might be a lot of info but it doesn't clear things up for you   
sorry

Margaret

[Jenny72]

Don't apologise!

Every bit of info helps to narrow it down, doesn't it. At least now I know that Thomas (1799) probably wasn't Ann Dinsdale's son or Tabitha Mason's!

And I've still got his father to have a try for!

Thanks

Jenny

[little meg]

I wonder if it is possible to try and find Thomas Wilcock and Ann Dinsdale, with the 3 children (Mary, Hannah and Elizabeth) listed in 1841 and 1851 census.
Might be worth putting up a separate query for them.
Just to follow them through and see what happens.

Even though you do not have a birthdate for the couple, someone might be able to find something through the children.
Unfortunately I do not have access to the census.

I did have a thought    , that perhaps, Thomas (1799) was illegitimate and they baptised him in a different church so that none of the 'locals' new.
Not sure if they could get away with that and it would be hard to prove anyway.
One of my wayward thinking ideas

What are the names of your Thomas' children?

Margaret

[little meg]

Jenny,
I am going to annoy you yet again 

Firstly, what docs do you have that tells you that Thomas' father was also a Thomas.
Do you have the parish details for his marriage to Zilah at Bingley in 1832.?
As far as I can tell this would be the only thing that can offer you that info.

Also with all the census you have on him, does his age vary at all, and does his place of birth vary at all?

Please. 

Margaret

[Jenny72]

That's what made me think that he wasn't their son as all the other children were baptised at Kildwick after the marriage in 1802 and have full dates and surnames of mother on the IGI whereas he looked a bit out on a limb. Didn't quite fit. (PS. I also have a Joseph b. 1808 son of Thomas and Ann Dinsdale)

Good idea about the children, they could be living with one of them later on.

Thomas and Zillah's children are Alice 1832, John 1835 (my ggg grandfather), Ann 1837, and Joseph 1838.

I only know that Thomas' father was a Thomas from the IGI stating that his parents are Thomas and Ann.

Thomas & Zillah married on 13.02.1832.

Then later on I have the 1841 census record for Morton (right area) for Thomas, Zillah, Alice, John and Ann (wonder what happened to Joseph, will have to have a look at that!).

[Jenny72]

Oh, and their marriage was in Bingley which is good as Zillah was born in Bingley.

[Jenny72]

I also have Thomas & Zillah in the 1861 census (with grandaughter Elizabeth visiting) and it says Thomas was born in Silsden so I know I have the right Thomas from that (there was another Thomas you see, that gave me some confusion, born around the same year but he was born in Kildwick).