Looking for Family from Rugeley Staffordshire

[trish1120]

May be related as there is no Fathers name on Johns Marriage Cert to Rose;

John Thomas FORD
Baptised 28 August 1878, Moseley Hole Primitive Methodist Later Mosely Village
Mother ELLEN Ford, Abode Moseley Village
(Source FreeREG)

Ellen may have married and John could appear on 1881/1891 under her new Married name.

Trish

[steveforduk]

Hi.

John Thomas Ford is my Great Grandfather too!

I hit the same problems as you and also have a copy of the marriage certificate sans father's details.

I think I have a little more information on this, a bit too complicated (and unverifiable) to go into here but as far as I can find, JTF's mother Hannah married a John Brickley not long after JTF was born and JTF spent the first 20-odd years of his life, until marriage it would appear, being called Brickley. I have some anecdotal evidence from (still living) family members that confirms the link to the Brickley family. Whether John B. is JTF's natural father or not, I sadly have no idea.

It would be great if you could drop me a private message as I have a bit more information on this and it would be good to swap notes. I can also give you some background on the locale if you need it as I grew up in the Hednesford area.

[weste]

Familysearch pilot project lists the marriage of john thomas ford and rose goring and gives rose's father as william goring. There is also a christening in1878 for a john thomas ford 1878 in pelsall staffs and mentions parents as william ford and mercy eliza.

[Annette7]

This family ties in with the information supplied by steveforduk. 

In Mar.qtr. 1879 Cannock, Staffordshire John Brickley married Ann Ford.

They appear on the 1891 Census as Bickley in Cannock, Staffordshire:

John Bickley     34      Coal Miner                           b. Madeley, Shropshire
Sarah (? this is what's written) Bickley   34            b. Wolverhampton, Staffs.
D. (?) Ford    Relative (? hard to read)   62   single              ditto
J. T. Bickley      son    14                                      b. Hednesford
Jas. Bickley       son    12                                           ditto
Wm. Bickley      son     10                                          ditto
F. Bickley          son     8                                            ditto
A. Bickley         son      6                                            ditto
H. Bickley         son      4                                            ditto
D. (?) Bickley    son      2                                            ditto
S. Bickley         son      4 mths.                                   ditto

ref. RG12 - 2221 - 76 - 22.

Can't find the family in 1881 but mother marries as Ann, 1891 as Sarah, 1901 as Hannah and died in Dec.1910 Cannock as Hannah.

If no father listed on his marriage certificate I would suggest that John Brickley was not John Thomas Ford's actual father even, as the census shows, he was raised as such.

Annette

[steveforduk]

Yes, that looks like them. I've spotted that before - the 'Sarah' business is odd but possibly a mishearing/transcription error. D. Ford is Hannah's father, Daniel.

Thanks for your help.

[treedahlia]

family Search site
1881 census
John and Hannah Brickly
John Thomas and James
in Wigan Rd, Westleigh, Leigh
Lancashire.

Thomas and Sarah Maria Brickley
on page 12 and children
Elias,  Emma, John, Mathew G
and servant Mary A Logite recorded on page 13
in 1861 census.